Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920

by Martha
(Denver, CO)

Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920

Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920

Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920
Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920
Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920
Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920




Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920:- These belonged to my grandparents, who were from New York City and he travelled the east coast as a salesman -- so I am thinking they MIGHT be by Anchor Pottery (of Trenton NJ).

Approximately 18" high, each of the figures bears a black anchor mark in its base. And each is signed(?) "Chapuis".

Any help in identifying the maker would be appreciated...

Thanks!

Martha

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Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920

Hi Martha

Nice clear pics, thanks. The actual anchor pottery mark on this figurine looks more like the marks of Thomas Maddock & sons of Trenton NJ (TM&S) in terms of the shape and style than the Anchor Pottery backstamp.

However, the items themselves look European, not really American, or at least I have not really seen examples of American sculpture & decoration like this. But not being an expert I learn everyday from site visitors and the expert appraisals they commission.

Any thoughts, please post. Interesting submission. Is this Samson of Paris, for example?

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UPDATE:-

I have been fascinated by this query for some time, and wanted it solved (because this is very interesting ceramic and sculptural work) so did a lot more digging.

I have found this anchor mark attributed (but normally in green - see the photos from an anonymous contributor below) elsewhere online to a small and little known, but very high quality Parisian maker called Vion & Baury (V & B) located in the Rue de Paradis-Poissonniere and originally founded in 1845 by a ceramic sculptor called Jean Gille.

Accounts say Gille died in 1867 and the two men took over the business renaming it Vion & Baury.

Here's what I have pieced together from various sources online....

Jean Gille seems to sometimes be referred to as Gille Jeune (presumably meaning Gille Jnr or Gille the younger). He was a modeller of great skill by all accounts.

Beginning his own business in 1845 he grew his business upon the fad of the time for highly detailed and characterful, realistic and colourful bisque (unglazed) figurines.

Some of the figurines I have seen from this period which have a blue raised JG pottery mark backstamp, are really very well modelled - actually breathtaking to see for a professional modern modeller like me.

It seems he was successful enough to take on junior modellers into his stable and the best of these was a Charles Baury.

When Gille died in 1867 Baury, along with Désiré Vion (who by some accounts was a fellow modeller and by others was another small manufacturer) took over the business.

From what I can gather their first mark was very similar to the raised blue JG mark - instead with the monogram VB. I think (and I am only surmising as more research is necessary) this mark might have been around the 1870's).






Then, by all accounts, by the 1880's the fad for the large bisque Parisian figure was waning and the studio went into slightly more mass production, or at least a bit more volume than before.

This later period is apparently where the green anchor comes in (needs citing & evidence) - it appears to denote slightly less exacting modelling and production standards to allow for a slightly lower appeal in terms of price point and market. All of which would make sense.

The anchor mark on the above photos sent in by Martha, does not appear to be green though (although you can never tell with digital pics).

Apart from green, I have not seen any other anchor mark mentioned in relation to Vion & Baury (apart from the photos below on this page, see an example in another listing here www.figurines-sculpture.com/green-anchor-mark).

So there we have it. Martha's items are characteristic of other items described with an anchor mark Vion et Baury of Paris that I have seen online.

However, I recently had a very similarly decorated item but with a different mark come through the expert appraisal service and the expert insisted it was mid to late 20th century, not 19th century V & B. It is the faces that are the give away, apparently Go here to see the evidence (scroll to the bottom of the page for my post)

I have seen some of the genuine JG and V & B figures apparently selling for four figure sums, other in the high hundreds. The real Gille and also Baury modelling and decoration is different class when you see it beside the above items.

This leaves this whole area open to an industry of clever fakes, so tread carefully. I can't tell whether the more mass produced looking figures are later V & B or modern.

I feel the artist 'Chapuis' (signature shown above on Martha's photo) is part of this later phase of V & B style wares, as I don't think they are as good as the ones I have seen attributed to older more carefully made Baury and Gille, especially the lady is not anywhere near in the same class. And I would even go as far as to say it looks almost as bad as a modern rip off (perhaps a bit harsh, but just my opinion).

The lady shown below is much better in my view, but the expert says this style of painting on the face looks to him like a 20th century painted face.

We would welcome any input on this - please post in the comments link below.

The discussion below is shown, as it unfolded, unedited, so interesting to see the thought processes from various contributors before we knew what we know now....

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END UPDATE

Peter (admin)

p.s. The following page is a 'must see' if you are researching fine china - for value and identification:-

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Anchor mark on Romeo & Juliet Porcelain Figurines pre 1920

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I have a nice figurine with the exact same marking.
by: Anonymous

Hi Martha,
I have a beautiful porcelain figurine marked with exactly same Anchor and I have no Idea what is it, who made it and when was this made. Did you have a chance to find out the info on this? If it is so please email me at xachik2000@yahoo.com
I will appreciate it.
Thanks

Anchor Mark
by: Anonymous

No! We haven't learned anything more. Do keep me posted if you find anything out.

Some Further Research on Chapuis and the Anchor Mark
by: The Forum Help Elf

Hi Guys

I did some further research into this submission query.

Here's what I found:-

The "Hand-book of marks and monograms on pottery & porcelain" lists marks used by painters, decorators, and gilders at Sevres. In the first period. 1753 -1799, it lists Chapuis, senior who painted flowers, birds etc. It mentions his son Chapuis, junior who worked with detached bouquets etc.

Then there was the factory of Sceaux Penthievre, France who operated at the same time using various anchor marks 1772-1795. The Sceaux factory of france used an anchor mark. The patron was the Duke of Penthievre. They made fine faïence with clear defined enamels and beautiful forms, said to give the fine porcelains a run for their money.

Don't get too excited because there are things that look wrong to me - the printed anchor mark, the transfer print look of the decoration, the slightly stiff modelling. Last but not least the penchant for reproducers and fakers to use glimpses of reality from known, but obscure markings like the anchor mark and the Chapuis name of Sevres.

I recommend this page for further reading and research:-

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Knowledgeable visitors, please post comments below which you think might be helpful……


H.E.

Thank you, H.E.
by: Martha

Your comments are helpful, and much appreciated. We'll research further (following your link) -- but it appears that we may need to go to the experts. Any recommendations in the Denver area?

I would like to share the pictures of the one I own.
by: Anonymous

This is the Juliet with the anchor mark.

anchor-potterymark-romeo-juliet-porcelain-figurine

THE ANSWER TO THIS ANCHOR MARK QUERY IS V & B or VION & BAURY
by: Peter (admin)

THE ANSWER TO THIS ANCHOR MARK QUERY IS, ACCORDING TO SOME SOURCES V & B or VION & BAURY OF PARIS.

I have written an update to my original answer giving more details and history.

Some experts claim though that a face painted in this way can not be 19th century V & B and is more likely mid to latter part of 20th century. So there is some doubt on cast on this identification and marking.

Just scroll to the top of the page to read the full report - see the word "UPDATE".

Peter (admin)

Anchor mark on Romeo and Julliet
by: Anonymous

look in Goddens guide to European porcelain for information about the anchor mark and the JG pad mark

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