Capodimonte "N" Crown Pottery Mark - Giuseppe Armani, Florence Sculture d'Arte Studio Backstamp Query

by Richard
(UK)

Capodimonte

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Capodimonte "N" Crown Pottery Mark - Giuseppe Armani, Florence Sculture d'Arte Studio Backstamp Query:- Hello, Can you help identify this piece and its value, it is to be donated to Salvation Army. Blue crown over N on back G A initials on front.

Thank you for your effort and time.

Richard

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- Capodimonte "N" Crown Pottery Mark - Giuseppe Armani, Florence Sculture d'Arte Studio Backstamp Query

Hi Richard

The "N" crown pottery mark is that of any maker who wishes to be associated with the mark of Capodimonte.

There is no trade mark restriction, so quality of make varies.

In the case of the modern factory of Florence Sculture d'Arte and the artist Giuseppe Armani, they make beautifully sculpted and decorated pieces in the romantic cutesy European porcelain style, but it must be remembered that these items are resin not porcelain. The resin reproduction gives the ability for fabulous sculpting detailing to be kept intact - a much more difficult feat in real porcelain.

The "N" mark of Capodimonte dates from the Royal Manufacturer of Capodimonte in Naples, Italy, which is often reported to have continued until 1806.

In fact, the actual history of this early period is a complex mix of progress and destruction, rebuilding and mixed patronage.

Despite these events, the porcelain production of this original period was some of the finest ever to have come out of Europe, and the factory was subject to turbulent and complex socio-economic influences of the time.

The mark represents the N of Naples, also conveniently representing the initial of the conqueror of this region Napoleon Boneparte. The history of ownership after the French military occupation is too complex to explain here, safe to say that after the superb early period (mainly 1759 to 1780) the N mark did not really apply to one Neapolitan factory or ownership, and therefore was not a protected tradename, as say Meissen in Germany with their various protected marks.

As a result, unlike the Meissen company which was a recognised firm with a recognised history and lineage of ownership and protected trademarking, and which regularly protected it's marks with legal action, the Capo di Monte 'N' mark, became free for anyone and his dog to use.






For a period, it became popular with German (particularly Thuringian) makers to use the N mark for export wares. These wares are often of high quality and are by no means fake.

Other makers, for instance I have seen modern Italian makers do this on their websites, swearing blind they are the one true Capodimonte maker. Importers to the US also make this implication - using the name Capo di monti as if it were a real historic trademarked brand with a history going back to the 18th century.

Please don't be fooled, if I felt like it, I could produce a range of Capodimonte style figurines, put an 'N' mark with a coronet and start talking about the marvellous and rich history.

Capodimonte nowadays is a style not a factory. Be warned.

It was in the 1920's that the Capodimote porcelain tradition of Naples was rediscovered and marketed.

Figurines in the Armani Collection bear the following identifying marks: Factory designation, Copyright mark, Artist's mark or signature, Capodimonte Crown and "N", Limited Edition figurines are numbered.

Generally, whenever visitors ask me for a valuation, I send them straight to the following page which has been written especially to help you in your search for how to value your porcelain wares or china collection:

www.figurines-sculpture.com/antique-china-values.html

My unique identification & valuation help will allow you to see if the mark is identifiable by experts without you having to pay any money upfront. This service is unique online and is designed to protect my site visitors from wasting their time and money online.

Best regards,

Peter (admin)

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Antique Capodimonte small box
by: Anonymous

Hello there--

I have a small Capodimonte antique trinket box with the usual cherubs in relief all around it. I am quite sure it is 19th century. The N crown mark is somewhat faded and partially covered by a torn very old tan sticker. What bothers me is that the word FRANCE is also painted on the bottom. I know that the French took control over the Capodimonte factory in the early 1800s but have you ever heard of a piece actually painted with the word FRANCE(very obviously old-style printing)? Any help would be appreciated.

N Mark with Crown - France
by: Peter (admin)

Hmmm....

Methinks this is expert territory. Not so good on European marks.

See my page here for possible solution:-

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Peter (admin)

THE LETTER N
by: Freda Judd

I have five large figurines all bearing the "N" mark and saying made in italy, also capo di monte.
about 10 inches high, each one doing something, such as holding a fish, sitting on a bench with a wind instrument. Help please - must sell

capodimonte
by: Anonymous

i have a three rose basket capodimonte how can i be sure if its original or if its fake? it has a big (n) and a three d crown above it its made in italy can you tell me how old it is, and if its original thank you

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Peter (admin) says:-

There can be no such thing as a Capo di Monte fake as there is no single Capo di Monte factory. Capo di Monte is a style rather than maker, so anyone can make in the Capo di Monte style and put an 'N' mark on their wares.

figurine
by: carie

I have a white figurine of a couple the woman is reading a book and they are both dressed in period clothing maybe from marie antoinette days? On the bottom is a blue N with a blue crown stamped on the bottom. Is it worth anything and how old is it?

Carie

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italian tea set
by: Anonymous

#50 on the bottom of each item. Larger pieces have six digit numbers in addition

caperdemonte figer of and old man on bench with letter N on the underside
by: Anonymous

i have a caperdemonte figer of an old man sitting on a bench with the letter N on the underside ant information or value would be very appresheaited thank you

n crown mark dated1998 florence d arte
by: Anonymous

my figurine is numbered 1306f but cant find it on any site is it a fake or valuable

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Peter Admin says:-

The can be no such think as a fake "Capodimonte" as it is just a style, not a manufacturer.

Many different makers mark their wares with the N of Naples and call their wares Capodimonte. Fair enough...

But beware any maker claiming to be 'genuine' Caopodimonte on their website or anywhere else, because this disqualifies their product instantly from that epithet.

'Genuine' Capadimonte would refer only to the original period of Naples in the 18th Century (mostly tucked away safely in museums and private collections).

Everything else after the end of the 18th Century is only "Capodimonte Style". The details of this history is complex and is the chomping ground of experts, gnashing their gums in an ecstasy of tiny and detailed pontification.

Use my search box above to research this further, if you dare.

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cant find info
by: debbie

I have a 12 rose basket floral with yellow and pink roses and leaves the underside is a crown with balls for the tips of the crown with a N under that

Boy with Candle
by: Anonymous

Can any one help i have a lovely boy with candle i dont no how old he is i am guessing old as its been passed down its in perfect condition only problem i have is i dont no who its by it has a N with a crown ontop with artist mark B.MeaR? not sure cannot make out Meal or Mear. Would love to no back ground.

Fake or real??
by: Anonymous

I have a vase of flowers that I have been lead to believe is Capodimonte Porcelain, it has the marking of the N with crown above, but we think this is in black or very very dark blue. Fake or real?

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The Forum Help Elf says:

The work 'fake' is a misnomer when applied to the term "Capodimonte". There has been no company of that name since the late 1700's. After the Royal factory closed, the term was used to describe a style, not a specific maker with a registered trademark.

Many companies make wares which they legitimately describe as Capodimonte style. Therefore, it is more or less impossible to make 'fake' Capodimonte wares. The only fake claim would be to claim in the sales blurb - "This is the true original Capodimonte ware" (unless it came from the Royal Naples or Madrid plants of the 18th Century).

Hope this helps.

H.E.

Capodimonte floral centerpiece with birds
by: Linda Riley

I just acquired a beautiful centerpiece. It is marked Capodimonte on the bottom with a N with crown over it (smudged) Made in Italy below the Capodimonte name. The printing looks to be black to me, or maybe dark grey, but definitely not blue. The centerpiece is quite large, weighing over 11 pounds. It has 7 large roses and two white doves on either side. If the writing is in black what does that mean? I would appreciate you sharing your expertise and knowledge. I certainly do appreciate and thank you.

Linda

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The Forum Help Elf says:-

There are a thousand different version of the N mark of Naples (Capodimonte) from 101 different makers, but none of the variations mean anything unless associated with the original Naples factory of the 18th Century. Virtually all items of the original factory are in museums or priceless private collections, so are very unlikely to be knocking around. No original items have the words Capo Di Monte or Capodimonte that I know of. This was a later invention, began in earnest in the 20th century.

H.E.

age of piece
by: Anonymous

I have a hobo on a park bench, with a bottle of wine on one side and his shoes on the other. There is also a suitcase on the ground with a pigeon next to it. Do you know the approximate age of this piece. It has the n with the crown stamped on the bottom of it.

INFO NEEDED
by: APRIL

Hi,
i have been given a a long base, doubled handled vase with flowers and green leafs. my elderly aunt says its capodimonte and it has a royal blue n mark with a dotted crown above. i have read other comments about no such thing as a fake etc but could this be original? it has been handed down the family to each female from the age of 10. my aunt is 80 and can remeber it as a child in her granny's cabinet.

what u think? any info?

thanks A

Large figurine
by: Anonymous

Hi,

I have a very large piece of a lady sat at a baby grande with a gentleman standing playing a violin and another lady standing playing a guitar.

It appear to have a chimney stump at the back with a hole in the centre - which I guess could be for a light fitting?

On the bottom there is a stamp which says "Capodimonte Made in Italy" with a crown and a letter "N".
This looks as if it was made with a stamp rather than handwritten.

On the back in gold lettering (handwritten is the name "maria ?????" The second name is illegible.

Please can you shed some light on its origins and an approx value?

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As for value, we don't discuss this in these identification forums, as this aspect is best left to professionals. Values are always changing, and there is a strict unwritten code as to who you should trust to value your wares for you, but marks identifications are evergreen. These posts stay online for years, so values are dealt with in a different offline section here:-

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Pair of Swans
by: Anonymous

I have 2 swans gray with gold details.
The base has a gold crown w/ an N under it and the name Capodimonte Made in Italy.
Does anyone have an idea of the value of the pair? excellent condition- given to me by a 80+ yr old woman.

a dog hanging on to a boys trouser leg whilst the boy is running
by: colin

i have a capodimonte it has the artist's initials which is g.a I've got a certificate with it the written is Italian i think.

il read it and can someone tell me what it says "Decoration faite a la main style capodimonte" then it says "L'artistica decorazione di questo pezzo,viene eseguita interamente a mano e nel rigoroso rispetto dello stile" that is what it says inside it then on the back it says art.n. 432 controllo n.3 if any one now what it says and what it means i would be very grateful if someone told me what it all means so plz email me on colin-turner@hotmail.co.uk

thank u

Colin

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Hi Colin

These words translate form the Italian as

"The artistic decoration of this piece is done entirely by hand and in strict compliance with the style"

These words are meaningless marketing speak trying to big up this maker. I know of no decorated figurine in the world ever which has not been decorated by hand. What are they going to use? Robots? Monkeys? Martians? Perhaps Micky Mouse's flying paintbrush from Fantasia?

Anyhow, that is not to denigrate Florence figurines (as they are known). Yes, they are made of resin, not porcelain, but they a sculpted and decorated to a very high standard.

They used to be the big noise in the 1990's but the market has changed and they are not so valuable as they were. However, they still can fetch a couple of hundred dollars at auction - depending on what type they are.

You should get your looked at by an expert. Click here find out more about the appraisal service I run:-

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basket
by: bobby

I have a large Capodimonte open-weave basket. It is 14" x 12" x 7". It has the Crown N mark under the glaze. It is also marked Bassard Made in Italy. Can you identify it for me? Thank you.

Newsboy
by: Dee

I have a newsboy figurine and am trying to find out more about it. It is an older man with a beret and a newspaper draped over his left arm that says PARIS SORIE. It is approx 9.5 inches tall. The markings on the bottom are as follows. 3 crowns each with 5 circles, and a capital N in the middle. It also says handpainted underneith thes marking. I have been told it is bisque. But most likely NOT ceramic. He also has a glaze and matte finish. Any ideas???

thanks for a great to the point explaination
by: cmd

i love this sentence!:" the Capo di Monte 'N' mark, became free for anyone and his dog to use. " Perfect! Solves a lot of mystery in a few words! Thanks again

him
by: neil

I have a capo di monte poodle statue,it still has the guarentee certificate,it also has some kind of hallmark,I'm sure it say's c 1983 florence,I lived in Naples during the 80's,it has the N with a crown on,its sighned G Armani,also has G Armani plaque under the signiture,I would like to know the value of it now...
yours greatfully
Neil Baxter.

Backstamp Crown and GNC initials
by: Chelle

I have searched every site imaginable to find the identity of this pottery mark. The piece is a Trinket Box Round with a pastel pink rose on the lid. The bottom is stamped with a mark that at first I thought was a woman wearing a crown but now I realize that the eyes and mouth of the woman are scripted letters G N and C. Underneath says Made in Italy. Any help would be Greatly appreciated. I did find some leads in the Naples files but still don't have the identity.
Best Regards,
Chelle

What is it? How old?
by: Sarah

I bought a 17 inch urn of yellow, orange, and pink roses. On the bottom is written by hand Made in Italy. These's also a hand painted sloppy n with four straight lines over the n and dots over the lines. What is this? It's very heavy and well made. Sarah

Thank You
by: Chelle

Thank you for your group reply. Can you possibly direct me in the proper direction to identify the mysterious mark on my Capodimonte. The back stamp obviously is from a sculptor or factory. I was pretty much aware of the great information you provided for all the mysterious N pottery marks but I was looking for the "specific" potter of this piece. Thank you so much.
Chelle

francesco pottery
by: Anonymous

hello i have been given a few pieces of pottery they are like vases with feet and petal flowers all over them on the bottom i have the mark N with the crown above and FRANCESCO MADE IN ITALY are these very old pieces or late 20 centry they were given to me by a neighbour she is in her 80's and don't like to ask her about them


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admin comment:-

Very likely late 20th century - from 1970's onwards. Anyone can use the N mark - there is no trademark control to speak of and the general term people use for this type of ware is Capodimonte (not a maker, just a general description). This mainly Italian ware began in earnest in the 1920's and was reflecting back to the late 1700's when the Naples Royal factory made very high quality wares.

Quite a lot of N marked figurines of reasonable quality were made in Thuringia, Germany in the late 19th Century and made for export to the Victorian new merchant middle classes in England and the USA.

Cherub box
by: Anonymous

Hello, I have a two lid box covered with cherubs. The two panels on top have a scene of cherubs around a basket of flowers. The box's only markings are the words, 'Capodimonte,Italy' along with the number 4633.

My question is, have you encountered this before?

Thank you for your help.

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The Forum Help Elf says:-

Capodimonte is not a maker, just a vague Italian type of decorative ceramic style. Originally the name originated from a nick-name of the Royal Naples factory ('The place at the top of the hill'), but this porcelain works closed in the late 1700's due to war and political instability.

Today, people seem convinced the 'C' word denotes a maker, but it doesn't. Therefore there are thousands of random variations of backstamps using the term - all of which have no real collectible value or significance.

There is a decorative value to Capo Di Monte items - what avid collectors of the style will pay, but no real collectable value, unless the items stem from the original Naples factory, in which case they are more priceless than Ming vases.

H.E.

A pair of Coffee pots
by: Anonymous

Hi i have two identical coffee pots with the letter "N" and a crown on top, it looks like it has been printed on but not sure!

The coffee pots stand around 12" tall with coloured roses on the front!

I can not find any pictures, or dates or even value to the coffee pots on the internet, not sure you can help?

Many thanks

Mr S V

CapodiMonte ?Coffee Pots
by: Helen

I have a pair of 17" approx CapodiMonte coffee pots with a spout on one side and a very large handle on the other. They have a creamy background but the front is decorated with ornate flowers and so is the lid of each pot.
They also have the N and crown mark on the base.
What would you opinion be on them please, and thank you?

cornaccopia/mer-man handle
by: Becky

I have a piece of Capodimonteold which is farely large in size. It's the shape of a cornaccopia that is covered with cherubs. No two are alike and all of them are outlined with gold leaf. You pick it up by a handle that is a Mer-Man. Tha's right! Please, if anyone is familiar with this I would like to hear from you. Thanks

Capodimonte statue/ figurine
by: Anonymous

this piece is about 2 feet high and and base is 12" round of an people playing different music instruments it has the crown mark and also the N for Naples and says made in Italy, can u please tell me if this is genuine piece.

thank u

capodimonte
by: nancy

hi,i read your piece and how interesting,it was,i have i think a capodimonti vase,cup,it has one golden leave,painted on the bottom,nothing else,it stands about 8 inches,and depicts a medieval wedding,in one colume and the banquiet, in the other with two more,with like to vicars,with horns on each side of there heads,the wedding columes are in lovely colours but the others are in grey,it looks a very important piece.

boxes with cherubi
by: Anonymous

I have 2 boxes such as has been described here.
Would love to know something about them.

"Gulliver's World"
by: Marina

Please answer this question - if it is a popular figure of "Gulliver's World" tea together, but there are no labels and signs. The very figure of 25 small factory defects. This is the real figure, or what it is. Thank you for your help. Marina

G Armani figurine
by: Anonymous

Hi, I inherited a G. Armani figurine of a cat in a wicker chair playing with a ball of yarn. It is exactly like what others are listing as item #166-C. However, the one I have is slightly different. All the others I have found have a blue crown with a letter N under. My figurine has the blue crown with what looks like a blue letter S on it's side with a vertical slash through it.

Does anyone know what this symbol means?

thx for your help.

Wes

Capodimonte nun figurine signed by artist Franco
by: Joe

Does anyone know where I might be able to find this beautiful piece?

Man making copper pot
by: Kim

After I moved my mother in laws belongings to my house, I found a Capodimonte Crown D tall figurine.(took a while to identify it) It is a standing coppersmith banging out a copper pot with other pots at his feet. It says made in Italy and has a signature difficult to read. I think it says: G Giaretty. I have searched and searched to find one similar to it but haven't been successful. Is there a way to figure out how old it is? Thanks!

Quio Pezzoto
by:

Everybody else seems to have an N on their Capodimonte - mine has a P in a box with a crown over the box and a lion either side. The words are Capodimonte by Quio Pezzoto. I bought these in Italy in the 1970's I believe. One is a 6 inch Gondolier - holding a wooden stick - quite an old man and the other is an 8.5 inch piece with a boy playing a mandolin and a girl by the side of him - behind them seems to be a wall with a tiled roof and a water fountain in the middle of it. I've searched and searched for these but just cannot find them anywhere. Both are in perfect condition having resided in my loft covered in bubble wrap as they never seemed to fit my room!!

G. Armani
by: Vic79109

I have a statue of a pheasant girl holding a cat with a small dog jumping at her skirt. She is wearing a hat decorated with petite flowers which are also inside the pocket of her skirt. The "ground" on which she stands also has many delicate flowers and the entire thing is mounted on a 4 1/4 square wood base. It also has the "N" mark along with a Copyright logo 1986 Florence. I can't quite make out the artist signature. It looks like G. Danwiley?? It is a beautiful piece I received as a gift. I know it isn't old and after reading previous comments I think it may not hold much value but I am still curious? Any ideas?

man holding newspaper
by: Anonymous

I have a statue a man holding a newspaper that says Paris Sorie or sorie has three crowns and the letter N. I have done some research but can not find the value.

Capodimonte
by: Anonymous

hi i have a capodimonte figurine that has the crown marking but under it appears to be an "F" not an "N" and it is dated 1906. Any idea if it is authentic or not?? thanks.

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