Coalport Coalbrookdale Collection - Modern Version of Antique Bone China Classics

by Rick
(UK)

Coalport Coalbrookdale Collection - Modern Version of Antique Bone China Classics Query:- Hi Peter,Had a look at your website which is very informative. I wondered if you could help with a query? My parents have a vase which is dated 1974 part of a ltd edition no 17 of 250 with cert and they are trying to find out a bit about it, it is part of the Coalbrookdale collection, it is a large vase with many ornate flowers attached to it appears to be marked model TV, ive tried to obtain some info by going on various websites but have ended up going round in circles, any help you can give would be much appreciated.

many thanks in anticipation

Rick

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Reply by Peter (admin)

to Coalport Coalbrookdale Collection - Modern Version of Antique Bone China Classics Query:-

Hi Rick

Thanks for sharing your story with regard to your modern Coalport Coalbrookdale Collection Vase.

A picture would be great.

Coalport produced the original range named Coalbrookdale Ware between c.1820-1840. There is not much online for sale of these antique vases, but I did see a pair on ebay selling for a buy-it-now price of £325 GBR. The newer vases tend to be Royal commemorative vases and I saw three selling together in one lot for and estimated price of £150 to £200 GBR for the lot of 3.

I am not sure you will get the actual identification of the other specialist marks online - unless you are prepared to pay for an appraisal by an antiquarian (see below in the 'tips' article). My own reference books are not that detailed. You could also try contacting the firm themselves (bearing in mind they are in change of ownership/administration processes at time of writing. Not sure whether the Coalbrookdale museum hold records of the modern wares. I know many porcelain museums do so.

Hope this helps

Peter (admin)

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Gotheborg.com - Chinese & Japanese and Far East porcelain marks - export marks are normally in English, often with English sounding patterns and brand names.

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