Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

by Stephanie
(Harrisonburg, Virginia, USA)

Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape:- Hi, I received this piece from my Aunt - I have no idea where it came from, how long she possessed it or where she got it! I have been able to find information about the diamond/kite mark but not the other mark.


Does anyone know what it is?

Anything you can tell me would be appreciated!

Stephanie

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

Hi Stephanie

Many thanks for your submitted images - could have done with a close-up of the writing on the two marks in question, as you don't mention what the words/letters say and I can't read anything at all from the photos.

As you found out, no doubt, the diamond shaped mark is that of the official British registration system - (the 1842 to 1867 version). Therefore the letter at the top of the kite mark (not the 1V which denotes the ceramics category, but the letter below) denotes the exact year. If you let me know the letter, I will let you know the year - but at any rate, we know it's mid 19th century, which is accurate enough for most valuations.

But, with regard to the other mark, I happen to think this mark is that of an intriguing and now old and rare faker who called himself John Wedge Wood, based in Burslem, Staffordshire from 1841 - 44 and Tunstall, Staffordshire 1845 - 60.

He was signing his wares J. WEDG WOOD (note the gap or dot between the two words). There is no 'e' in the real J. Wedgwood, so why he would would want to document his name as "Wedge" Wood. And why not call himself J Wedgewood? The real Wedgwood never use the initial 'J' in their marks.

I suspect there may be some collectible interest in these wares as they are part of history and very old and probably uncommon.

I don't do valuations, but I pass on anyone needing valuations, to this page:-

vintage and antique china values page.

Normally, the pattern name is inside the 'Q' and "Ironstone" is written up top and J. Wedg wood is written on the right ribbon.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Peter (admin)

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Thanks! J Wedg Wood Comment
by: Stephanie

Peter,

Now that you've told me what the words are supposed to say I can make them out. The word in the top of the "Q" does appear to be Ironstone and it does look like it might say J Wedg Wood on the bottom ribbon. Both words are very unclear on the pottery and all attempts I made to get a better picture of it were in vain.
Also, it looks like the word in the middle of the "Q" is "Peruvian"... but honestly it could be something else. Do you know what it might say from past experience?
Thank you so much for your help - I find your information very interesting!

Stephanie

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Peter (admin) says:

Stephanie, I don't really know too much about this maker - just what the books tell me - remember, I am not an expert, just an enthusiast who learns a lot from visitors submissions like yours. The book says the middle words are normally the pattern - so it might well say "Peruvian". Try checking on replacements.com

Diamond Kite = Registry Mark
by: Anonymous

Dear Stephanie, The diamond shaped mark on your piece is an English Registry Mark. The Registry Mark contains a lot of information once you know how to decode it. This site will walk you through the process. Dating English Registry Mark

I'd really like to see a close-up of both marks. If you have the time you can e-mail me pictures or links to blake77@satx.rr.com

Based on the pictures of your piece it should have a lid. You don't mention any measurements but it looks to be about 5" tall to me. In that case, I believe it may have been a tea caddy or tea jar for storing tea leaves. If the jar is much larger it is probably a cookie or biscuit jar.

Yours, Blake

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by: Anonymous

I have a water pitcher with an R in the middle and a q on the right side and a plus sign or x on left side, can you help me find value?

Diamond kite mark
by: sue

I have a ceramic pitcher that looks much like the womans pot.Using the English Reg. Mark guide mine is dated May 24, 1849. All marks on bottom are very readable. If you ever hear of any valuation i would love to hear from you. Researching myself.
Thanks for the information.

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