Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

by Stephanie
(Harrisonburg, Virginia, USA)

Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape:- Hi, I received this piece from my Aunt - I have no idea where it came from, how long she possessed it or where she got it! I have been able to find information about the diamond/kite mark but not the other mark.

Does anyone know what it is?

Anything you can tell me would be appreciated!

Stephanie

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- Pottery Mark Query - Diamond kite with R in the middle and a tied Ribbon in a circle or Q shape

Hi Stephanie

Many thanks for your submitted images - could have done with a close-up of the writing on the two marks in question, as you don't mention what the words/letters say and I can't read anything at all from the photos.

As you found out, no doubt, the diamond shaped mark is that of the official British registration system - (the 1842 to 1867 version). Therefore the letter at the top of the kite mark (not the 1V which denotes the ceramics category, but the letter below) denotes the exact year. If you let me know the letter, I will let you know the year - but at any rate, we know it's mid 19th century, which is accurate enough for most valuations.

But, with regard to the other mark, I happen to think this mark is that of an intriguing and now old and rare faker who called himself John Wedge Wood, based in Burslem, Staffordshire from 1841 - 44 and Tunstall, Staffordshire 1845 - 60.

He was signing his wares J. WEDG WOOD (note the gap or dot between the two words). There is no 'e' in the real J. Wedgwood, so why he would would want to document his name as "Wedge" Wood. And why not call himself J Wedgewood? The real Wedgwood never use the initial 'J' in their marks.

I suspect there may be some collectible interest in these wares as they are part of history and very old and probably uncommon.

I don't do valuations, but I pass on anyone needing valuations, to this page:-

vintage and antique china values page.

Normally, the pattern name is inside the 'Q' and "Ironstone" is written up top and J. Wedg wood is written on the right ribbon.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

Peter (admin)

p.s. The following page is a 'must see' if you are researching fine china - for value and identification:-

Researching the identity and value of antique and vintage fine china.

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