POTTERY MARK QUERY ON BASE OF JAPANESE VASES

by GAVIN

POTTERY MARK QUERY ON BASE OF JAPANESE VASES

POTTERY MARK QUERY ON BASE OF JAPANESE VASES

POTTERY MARK QUERY ON BASE OF JAPANESE VASES:- WE HAVE TWO VASES, ALMOST IDENTICAL EXCEPT FOR A SLIGHT VARIATION OF THE FLOWER ON THE FRONT OF VASE, ONE LEANS LEFT, ONE LEANS RIGHT. I GUESS THE IDEA IS WITH TWO ON THE MANTLEPIECE THEY WILL COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.


THEY ARE A FAMILY HEIRLOOM FROM MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WHO MIGHT HAVE AQUIRED THEM SOMETIME IN THE THIRTIES. MY FATHER CAN REMEMBER THEM ON THE MANTLEPIECE DURING THE WAR, SO THEY ARE AT LEAST PRE - WAR.

WE THOUGHT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN A WEDDING PRESENT BUT SHE GOT MARRIED IN ABOUT 1910, AND AT THE TIME JAPAN WAS CALLED NIPPON, BUT THE VASES BOTH HAVE "MADE IN JAPAN" ON THE BOTTOM. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT EXPORT ITEMS FROM JAPAN BETWEEN 1910 AND THE 1920'S WERE MARKED "MADE IN JAPAN" FOR WESTERN TASTES,EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTRY WAS CALLING ITSELF NIPPON"??.

ALSO BOTH VASES HAVE A DIFFERENT MAKERS MARK / FACTORY MARK ON EACH ONE ALSO ON THE BASE. BOTH MARKS LOOK HAND PAINTED RATHER THAN STAMPED WHICH MAKES ME THINK THEY ARE A POTTERS MARK SEEING THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MARKS ON TWO VASES WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY A PAIR.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT THE MARKS DON'T EVEN LOOK LIKE JAPANESSE WRITING.!!!

THE TWO VASES ARE BOTH 330 MILLIMETRES TALL.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THEM REGARDING THERE MARKINGS, STYLE, AGE, ETC, AS IT IS QUITE VEXING TO US.

GAVIN

THANKS

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- ‘POTTERY MARK QUERY ON BASE OF JAPANESE VASES’

Hi Gavin

Thanks for the great pics and interesting story about these Japanese vases.

First thing to say is, while I can give you some pointers, oriental wares are a specialist area requiring specialist knowledge.

Here's my tuppenceworth about your vases.

If the vases differ slightly = good news as they are hand-painted and the value just went up quite a lot.

The pottery marks seem to be hand painted Japanese calligraphy and, to my eye could be the same mark written by two different calligraphers, or the even the same one if they had an off-day, or were in a hurry, or their brush slipped... maybe. Only a guess.

Lastly, imports to the US had to have country of origin clearly written in English after 1890, so they could date from anytime after that.

Try gotheborg.com, they are the total specialists in oriental marks.

Good luck tracking down the provenance of your vases, Gavin. Hope your vexation is soothed soonest...

Best regards,

Peter (admin)

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what is it?
by: tom peacock

I have a vase with the word PANDA and a circld R on the base, with a picture of a Panda, and was wondering who made it, and if it was worth anything?

PANDA
by: Katuk

I have the same marking on my pot PANDA trademark symbol 'R' (circled)

I don't think this is an antique piece, but it is in a beautiful Egyptian style.

Just intrigued as to where it made as I can't find a company called PANDA in the UK

Panda Back Mark
by: Jacqui

I too have an Imari plate with the same mark! I´ve been trying for a couple of years to try and track this down (the difficulty is that Pand throws up everything to do with pandas so it is time consuming... I too think it´s a 20th century piece but the quality and colours are exceptiona. Grateful for any help to solve the mystery. I did wonder at Russia USSR Thanks

Panda markings
by: Sandra Fisher

I have a beautiful blue and white bowl with a peacock in the centre. The bowl is a rather curious shape being 'double hulled' with a raised base - it is open at the base and you can see inside it. The mark is a giant panda eating bamboo surrounded by a crown of laurel and the R encircled - I think this means registered but not sure. Cannot find anything like it but it appears to be some years old although I think it's transfer print as all the designs on the outside are identical - any info would be appreciated as I am planning to leave the country next year and don't know if I should junk it or sell it.

panda
by: liz

Ive just bought a very large ginger jar,beautiful blue and gold with small birds ,got it at a car boot were bis this panda company from ?

Panda with laurel wreath circled R also number 11.T
by: Carolyn

I have a 7"x5" trinket box with a country garden scene with man woman and child dressed in 17th-18th century clothes. Looks English or French , very decorative but have not got a clue the period but looks very old. Cannot find marks if any information would like to hear it.

panda stamp mark
by: marie

Have attractive bowl in blue and white and gold,with a peacock and hen and flowers.
Dont know if it is chines or japenese pattern but there is a small colured detailed transfer or what i don't know, of a panda in a gold wreath.But it is in the centre of the base of bowl.

I want to know also
by: Maggie

I also have a beautiful blue and white bowl with a peacock in the centre. The bowl is a rather curious shape being 'double hulled' with a raised base - it is open at the base and you can see inside it. The mark is a giant panda eating bamboo surrounded by a crown of laurel and the R encircled - I think this means registered but not sure. Cannot find anything like it but it appears to be some years old although I think it's transfer print as all the designs on the outside are identical .

Japanese vase
by: gotheborg.com

Hi Guys,

Just happened to browse by and noticed a little question mark about this vase. From the 'Made in Japan' mark and general look, I think we can safely date this vase to the 1930's. The black character is actually a number - 6. It could be referring to the decoration or shape but it could also be just a mark, added maybe because western customers liked to find a mark on the base of Asian wares. In Chinese traditions the number 6 is considered good for business and also represents happiness, I am not sure but it could well be the same in Japan.

JE

Honoured to Have a Comment From JE himself!
by: Peter (admin)

Wow Guys!

I think we may just have had the honour of a comment from the one and only Jan-Erik Nilsson himself (the owner of oriental mark specialist site Gotheborg.com).

Nice comment JE - very useful and thanks so much for stopping by.

JE quite rightly brought this thread back on track to the original mark which we now know, thanks to JE, is the number 6 - a mark for good luck and good business it seems.

The past few comments had diverted onto the subject of a different Panda mark. I will move these to a new thread when I get a moment.

But in the meantime JE, nice to meet you, I am a big fan of your site and tell people to visit you often.

Peter (admin)
peter@theclayartist.com

two vases blue and gold
by: Anonymous

i have two vases with panda marks on the bottom blue and gold with peacocks on the wondering what the mrk is

Panda registered design dish
by: crystal

I also have bought a large round dish as described in the other peoples emails it is hollow underneath and double hulled with a large dark blue & white Peacock in the middle. So its quite an unusual shape. It has a pottery mark of a Panda encircled in a wreath of leaves with the letter R in a small circle nearby. I am confused as Pandas live in China as far as I know but this dish has a Japanese feel. It in excellent condition. I am sure R in a circle is a registered design.
I can't seem to find out any thing about it as when I search Panda or pottery or dish I don't get anywhere. Has anyone found anyting out.
I am writing this in May 2015. Thanks I will check this site again.


Photo frame
by: Amanda

I have a photo frame with the same panda Mark with a black R circled and 04 in gold!

Chinese vase
by: Brenda mccartie

I have a chinese vase underneath says made in china in a orange triangle.top of inside triangle is a cup underneath chinese writing then made in china.it hasim not sure if its numbers lookks like an f 15 cant make front and back letter.the vase hasa blue peacock on.on the vase going round are white stand out dots

I have a third vase to add to this duo
by: Karen

Same exact coloring of the vase, but with a wider mouth and wider bottom painted with the made in japan in green looks like scroll leaves handles..did you find out who the artist was?

The answer is above - the pottery mark says the number 6
by: Peter (admin)

We got lucky and got one of the leading specialists to drop by - Jan-Erik Nilsson of Gotheborg.com fame.

He said that this mark was not identifying an artist, but saying the number 6, possibly because it is lucky. The only reason marks were pout on this type of export ware from the 1930's was because the Western market demanded it.

I guess because these would have been made in quantity for the export market, there was not so much an 'artist' involved as a 'factory worker'.

Bear in mind the mindset of Japan at that time, just pre-war in the 1930's. They had systematically shut down old artisan traditions in favour of mass production in an attempt to modernise their economy.

Management must have said - 'Let's stick a number 6 on it for good luck and to keep our customers happy!'

Best regards

Peter (admin)

NO NUMBER 6
by: Karen

I did read the post, except mine has no number 6 or any other goodie stamp, that would be nice. Only Made In Japan. The curiousness is the artist did put their stamp on it by placing 2 single cherry blossoms on the back in reeds, and that actually makes the piece unique to this vase. Because it is very ornate on one side and very plain on the other. Besides the vases posted here I have not seen these vases anywhere and I have looked, 10,000 plus vases. So I am going to query the piece to the gentleman in Sweden, so that I may place a value on it for resale. Thank you for all the great information~Karen

Panda vase
by: Patricia

Hi going through some old belongings have found an interesting vase. It has a panda eating bamboo and surrounded by what could be leaves . There is a small circle with an 'r' in it Underneath the vase there is writing that says "inspired on Egyptian origins and truly reproduced by Panda"if there is anyone out there knows anything about Panda I would be interested in learning something about the company and this lovely vase thanks

vase with the panda mark
by: Anonymous

i have the panda reef and the letter r on my vase the vase has a peacock flowers much more. and a five toed dragon around the neck of the vase which i believe is chinese 3 toed dragon is japanese

panda wreath circled r hi NEW
by: yan

Hi I also have nice vase I inherited from mum.It to has the panda in wreath with the letter r.Where was je at gotheborg.com reading !!!we all say letter r ringed not number 6. I'm already confused looking for the origin of the panda in gold laurel wreath with a circled letter r. Can anyone help with the real answer please. cheers yan

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