Regency Bone China - Antique Maker?

by Laine J
(London)

Regency Bone China Query - Antique Maker?

Regency Bone China Query - Antique Maker?





Regency Bone China Query - Antique Maker?:- Can you tell me if you know anything about a mark, in gold on the bottom of cup and saucer, that says Regency genuine Bone China Made in England. There is no other marking or logo. The actual cup is pink with roses in the bottom inside, plain apart from two gold lines on the outside, base of the foot, handle and rim. The saucer also has roses in the middle and otherwise plain apart from gold rim. The cup feels quite rough at the bottom inside (not sure what that is). I collect tea cups for fun and have never seen this mark and can't trace anything on the internet. Mostly I'd like to know more about the factory and the cups likely age.

Thanks,

Laine

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- Regency Bone China Query - Antique Maker?

Hi Laine

First, the easy bit. I'm told by those 'in the know' that the bottom of your cup is rough because you can feel the bisque (unglazed) part of the ware.

Now on to your real question. Regency China Ltd are a nice little maker founded in 1953, situated very near to the famous Sutherland works of Hudson & Middleton works in Sutherland Road, Longton, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire.

I don't know if there is any family connection between Hudson & Middleton and Regency China, as the potters of an area are often interrelated. I know that Chapmans (Atlas) were definitely involved with Hudson and Middleton as I am researching their history at the moment from individuals' first hand experiences. However, the reference books do not show this connection at the time.






When I find out more, I will let you know. (Editor's note: for an exciting update, keep reading!)

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***UPDATE***
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Since this query was published, I have been lucky enough to find a wonderful expert on Hudson & Middleton. Click on my Staffordshire China link and scroll down to find a potted history of Staffordshire China Makers HUDSON & MIDDLETON, written by Helen Gregory (nee Chapman), part of the Hudson and Middleton dynasty, whose family connections to the firm make for fascinating reading! Here you'll find personal recollections, historical information, and even photographs of workers in the factories in bygone days.

If Helen's very detailed contribution doesn't answer any questions you may have, please feel free to contact Helen via the comments section at the bottom of that page.

Helen has also been kind enough to contribute a Staffordshire China Hudson & Middleton submission.

Thanks for getting behind the site, Helen! We value your contributions.
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***END UPDATE***


Best regards,

Peter (admin)

p.s. The following page is a 'must see' if you are researching fine china - for value and identification:-

Researching the identity and value of antique and vintage fine china.

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Regency Bone China cup and saucer
by: Jimmy J

I have four Regency cups and saucers all with different flower designs. I happend to stumble onto your posting regarding the gold "fleck". I don't know what it means, but I will venture a guess that it identifies mfg, designer, etc. My reasoning is there is a mark on each cup with each one placed in a different location; at 12, 1, 2 and four. If someone finds out anything further, would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Jimmy

Regency Bone China
by: Susan

I have 6 cup and saucer sets of Regency Bone China made in England~ and I am not sure what they are worth. They are the fruit (pear and grape) pattern~ could you let me know what they are worth for a set ? I also have Schumann Bavaria Fruit Plates, could you let me know what they are worth? Thank you

Susan

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The forum moderator says:-

Sorry, the short answer is no. We don't deal with valuations in this forum as it is 'off-topic' - This forum is about pottery mark identification only.

For general free advice on how to research the value of your collection, Peter wrote this page:

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Regency Bone China
by: Bill Barlow

I also have a piece of Regency China, a small decorative plate with a vixen and 3 cubs. The gold markings are at 9 o'clock, otherwise markings are similar. I think it is something to do with dating.

Regency chinaSTAR ANSWER!
by: Anonymous

Regency china was a stoke on Trent business, owned by my uncle Harry Whalley. The business went into liquidation over 10 years ago when he sadly passed away. He had a keen interest in birds and flowers and this is represented in his lovely pieces. A fantastic gentleman and business man.

A lovely post
by: Peter (admin)

Many thanks for putting a name to this firm and telling us the family background . That is what this website is all about.... Great post!

Regency China design dating query
by: Anonymous

I have found two versions of the Regency China lily of the valley design. One has more coloured and better drawn florals and more decoration; specifically flowers inside the cup and three motifs on the saucer. The Regency mark is in gold.

The other version has a similar, but simplified design in cooler colours, no flowers inside the cup and only two motifs on the saucer. The Regency mark is in blue and yellow.

Am I right in thinking this dates the two versions? The (more detailed and decorated one) being 1950's and the other being more recent? Can anyone confirm this theory and help my date them?Thank you Teresa

gold marks on bottom
by: nyclothingandcurios

The most likely reason for the gold flecks that you've seen on the bottoms of the cups is the craftsman applying the gilding was merely testing the flow of the material in what is the most inconspicuous place on the piece: the bottom. The gilding is genuine gold, and as such, the amount used is out of necessity, kept to the bare minimum. The craftsman would have to meet certain requirements for appearance, etc. in the application of glazes and gilding while minimizing the amount applied, hence the small dots, flecks, lines etc. that people find. The craftsman was simply checking the consistency and flow of the gilding prior to applying it to the rest ot the piece. Patterns, designers, groups or individual craftsmen are, if at all, identified by numbers, letters, a unique mark, or something similar. I have a Regency teacup with the fruit pattern, pear, grapes, blackberry, and it has a little gold fleck on the bottom.

Gold fleck on the bottom of china
by: Brian

I think you will find the gold fleck on the bottom of china is so the gilder can be identified. Most of the gilders were on piece work, which meant they were paid for the amount of work they did.

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