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sugar bowl leonard street pottery

could you please give me any information that you may have on the following item?

possible sugar bowl?

top half green with ornate gold pattern
gold pattern in middle
bottom half in white
one pink rose inside

base:-
gold crown
leonard st pottery
fine
bone china
burslem
warranted
22kt. gold
princess

many thanks hilary and anne

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Hi Hilary and Anne

Nice query and detailed description from Hilary and Anne. Thanks.

Ok. The Leonard Street Pottery wins the prize as the most obscure china manufacturer in the whole of Stoke-on-Trent, even perhaps all of England.

Yours is the second query I have ever had and there is no reference to this maker anywhere in my reference books or online (except two items shown on Replacements.com and one of those is broken!?

If anyone knows about this maker, please shout!

My other query about the The Leonard Street Pottery is here:

The Leonard Street Pottery

As a mere enthusiast, not an expert antiquarian appraiser, I can normally give you lots of helpful pointers, but not in this case.

Maybe you should get an expert appraisal. By far the quickest, easiest & cheapest way is to contact www.figurines-sculpture.com/whats-it-worth.

They have a team of enthusiastic specialist collectors and experts on hand to answer queries in detail. An appraisal only costs about a fiver (GBS), and for the cost of a couple of coffees, you will get a higher price for your wares, simply because they are certified genuine. They can authenticate your wares, give insurance valuations and also tell you what all the small artist squiggles and date marks mean.

If visitors feel like expanding their own knowledge (or want to buy a nice gift for a friend or loved one) they can also purchase a short online course at WhatsItWorth. They are the top online experts and very friendly.

With 9 queries out of 10, I can point visitors in the right direction, but I can’t value or authenticate. That's the job of an antiquarian.

TOP TIP IF SELLING ON EBAY:-

A mistake many people make when trying to sell wares on Ebay is not to upload a photograph of the pottery mark. Serious collectors will ALWAYS want to see the mark before buying. To save yourself hassle, the best way to ‘photograph’ the mark so as to give collectors the best view is to place the item on a scanner and ‘scan’ the pottery mark. This almost always gives a better result than a photograph (you see lots of blurred photos on ebay from sellers who could do with this tip!

The other thing budding china antiquers would benefit from is a fun and interesting ebook with all the tips and tricks of the pros called 'How To Buy & Sell Antiques For Fun & Profit'. Buy it and find out why ebooks work – much more efficient than carrying around lots of heavy books on antiquing!! Have it on your laptop and it will save you time, money and effort - and show you how to earn a few bob whilst having fun (like a mobile library).

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Check it out here:

www.figurines-sculpture.com/buy-and-sell-antiques-for-fun

Happy hunting. Let us know what you find out.

Peter (admin)

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More Leonard St Pottery Burslem
by: Sue

I too have a small amount of Leonard St Pottery Burslem but know very little about it. My pattern sounds similar to that of Anne and Hilary except that mine features a lady and gentleman in period costume complete with wigs! It was handed down to me by my Grandmother's grandmother who was given it as a gift by the lady she worked for when in service in London many many years ago.

I don't think the gold leafing on the china is real gold as I'm assuming this would be indicated by some sort of authentication on the bottom.

Best Wishes

Sue

Tea Cups & Saucers Leonard St. Pottery
by: Norman Hayes

My wife and I have six teacups and saucers to the exact description of the sugar bowl pattern. We bought them when we were still teenagers as the beginning of our "bottom drawer" prior to eventual marriage. Fiftysix years later and we still have not used them yet. Perhaps there is still time.

I have Leonard St Pottery china, too
by: Sue N

My mother-in-law had a set which is now mine. I believe her sister-in-law brought back three sets as gifts from her travels; I believe this would be in the fifties. The very attractive tea set consists of six small plates, six cups and saucers, lidless sugar bowl, and creamer in a green/aqua, cream, and ornate gold pattern. Inside the top of the cups and bowls is a gold line. Like the others described, the marking is Leonard St. Pottery Fine Bone China Burslem. I am unable to find any more information on the maker, pattern, or value, so finding some information on this website was helpful. More would be really nice!

Leonard Street Pottery
by: Anonymous

Hi
I too have a collection of Leonard Street Pottery, fine bone china burslem. The set is yellow with gold details and a pink rose in the centre. HERE IS THE QUESTION THOUGH - Exactly the same pattern, same rose etc but on the back of the sandwich/cake plate is the backstamp STANLEY FINE BONE CHINA EST 1878. Confusing - help!!!

Leonard Street and Royal Stanley Clue
by: Peter (admin)

Dear Visitor,

Well I think you have put us one step closer to solving two old mysteries which have been bugging this site for years.

Turns out to be a connection!

We have been flummoxed by this Leonard Street Pottery as well as a later company who were using the Royal Stanley pottery mark for bone china.

Colclough owned the Royal Stanley mark and in the early part of the 20th Century used it for their non-bone china production - especially their Moorcroft look-a-like vases. A different company called Stanley China (Amisons, established 1878) made very nice bone china at the same period. Confused? Just follow this Royal Stanley thread which explains all.

Then someone in the 1950's, starts to re-use the Royal Stanley backstamp, but this time for classic bone china tea services, not the earthenware Moorcroft stuff of the Colclough years.

The question is - who was it doing this?

Ok, now here's the leap.... and this would have to be confirmed by experts, collectors or company records etc etc, but I think I know whodunnit.

Possible Solution No.1

Colclough was amalgamated into the giant Pearsons Ridgway Group in the 1950's who had gone about buying many of the old well known but ailing Victorian firms (see this article on Ridgway / Royal Vale).

This meant that the Allied Potteries as they were known at that time (later to become known as the Royal Doulton Group) owned the Royal Stanley name.

In some towns important retailers negotiated exclusivity on certain names, so that a second retailer in the town could not be sold that brand name.

My guess is that Allied Potteries/Ridgways/Doulton used their many different labels to keep retailers happy about their exclusivity arrangements. So the same pattern could be sold with a different label on it for the purposes of marketing. In other words the maker was the Allied Potteries/Ridgways/Doulton group and the label was whatever was covenient.

So its not about the maker - it becomes about what brand the owners decide to stick on something - very much the business model in todays UK market.

So both the Leonard Street Pottery and the 1950's - 60's version of Royal Stanley bone china tea services were just convenient backstamps for a giant maker.

Possible Solution No. 2

The same large company had also absorbed Amisons (Stanley Bone China) and so could use the 1878 date (some records say 1875 was the founding date of Amisons).

Possible Solution No. 3

It was in fact the owners of the Amisons (closed c. 1962) who used these Leonard Street and Royal Stanley marks.

You pays yer money and takes yer choice!

Peter (admin)

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