Pottery Mark Query- W LOWE L

by Ozlem

W LOWE L (with LILY pattern) bee mark on old charger

W LOWE L (with LILY pattern) bee mark on old charger

Bee mark on old charger Pottery Mark Query- W LOWE L (with LILY pattern)

Mr. Holland, thanks for replying. Here is the photo of my earthenware plate's mark which is closer than before:)Hope you have any idea about the the maker..

Regards,

Ozlem.


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Reply by Peter (admin)

to: Pottery Mark Query- W LOWE L

Dear Ozlem

Thanks for your interesting query, I really appreciate the time and trouble you took to upload a close-up photo.

Also welcome to the 'community' and watch out for our updates and news - there are always some fascinating snippets to read.

I would love to have a photo of the wares too - please upload soonest.....

Yours is particularly interesting query because W Lowe is an interesting maker whose rarity is emphasized by the fact they only produced until 1930.

William Lowe is an English maker operating out of the Sydney Works, Longton, Stoke-on-Trent - this is what the 'L' stands for under the name.

They began 1874 and typically the early wares have the initials W.L.L. in an inverted triangle (1874 - 1912). The Court China mark was begun around 1912.

They also have the same crown mark with the words "Royal Sydney Ware" which started in 1915. I don't know what warrant the "Royal" refers to, but the Sydney refers to the works in Longton where they were based in 1915.

Modern Far East maker Wong Lee has faked marks to try to pass their wares off as William Lowe. They even go to the extent of reproducing the crazing on the base as in your picture.

Is your item genuinely W Lowe?

I have never seen recorded the bee pottery mark in association with W Lowe. I have looked in Kovels, Goddens and Millers guides and also checked with potteries.org

If it is W Lowe you have a rare mark - probably hard to get hold of for collectors and therefore perhaps of some value to certain people.

Peter (admin)

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General Comments:-
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W Lowe Bee and Chain
by: Annette

I have a round W Lowe plate with a bee, then the word "chain" in a ribbon, the W Lowe below it and and a L below that.

I would to know the age of the item as it belonged to my grandmother who died in 1931 or possible her mother.

If you could send me an email address, I'll send you a photograph of the mark on the back as well as the front of the page.

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Hi Annette

Thanks for your contribution, please send the photos to....

peter@theclayartist.com

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I live in Turkey and have one ceramic plate (24 cm),egyptian black flowers on it and exactly the same makers initials at the back..

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Royal Sydney Ware W Lowe Cookie Jar
by: Helen

Hi Glenda Holland,
re your W.Lowe L Jar: My earthenware item sounds exactly the same as yours. I would be happy for any information on how old the item is and its value.

Regards Helen


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Royal Sydney Ware
by: Helen

I have earthenware: Royal Sydney ware with crown under name then W LOWE under crown, under that L. The item I believe is a cookie container, black with coloured flowers and silver lid & handle. Would love to know its value. I know it is at least 60 years old.

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Large oval platter
by: Yolanda L

It's about 15' long with a width of 10".
It is off white, with light blue trim.
Would you have and pictures that you can display?


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W.Lowe.L Jar
by: Glenda Holland

I have a Jar with a metal lid and handle. It is black with coloured blossoms and butterflies and has a gold rim around the bottom, it stands 5 1/2 inches tall but taller if you put the handle up I would very much appreciate it if you could let me know what you think it would be worth. It has a crown stamp on the bottom with W. Lowe. L on it. and above that Royal Sydney Ware. Thank you. I look forward to your your comments.

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by: Peter (admin)

Many thanks for your contribution to this thread, you are most welcome.

For valuations of this nature, please go to this page:

vintage and antique china values page

and follow instructions for my expert valuation referral service at the foot of the page.

Regards

Peter (admin)

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Royal Sydney Ware
by: Rose

I have two vases and a ginger jar. They are blackwith blossoms and butterflies on.nderneath each one is says Royal Sydney Ware Underneath that is a Crown underneath that it says W.L.Lowe
L

There is a number which is 1/4oo7
I know they are over 100 years old I would like a valuation on these if possible I could send photos.
Look for ward to your reply Regards Mrs R.D. Moore
Thanks..

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by: Ozlem

Mr. Holland,
many thanks for informing about the mark.It was so useful. Well..What about the "Lily pattern"? Do you have any "date range" for this pattern.It was used only by W Lowe or generally used among different English makers as well? May you inform me please?

Thanks and Regards.

Ozlem
P.S: I will send photo of the ware as soon as possible.

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Thanks..
by: Ozlem

Mr. Holland,
many thanks for informing about the mark.It was so useful. Well..What about the "Lily pattern"? Do you have any "date range" for this pattern.It was used only by W Lowe or generally used among different English makers as well? May you inform me please? Thanks and Regards.Ozlem
P.S: I will send photo of the ware as soon as possible.
Royal Sydney Ware
by: Rose

I have two vases and a ginger jar. They are blackwith blossoms and butterflies on.nderneath each one is says Royal Sydney Ware Underneath that is a Crown underneath that it says W.L.Lowe
L

There is a number which is 1/4oo7
I know they are over 100 years old I would like a valuation on these if possible I could send photos.
Look for ward to your reply Regards Mrs R.D. Moore
Antique China Valuations
by: Peter (admin)

Many thanks for your contribution to this thread, you are most welcome.

For valuations of this nature, please go to this page:

vintage and antique china values page

and follow instructions for my expert valuation referral service at the foot of the page.

Regards

Peter (admin)
W.Lowe.L Jar
by: Glenda Holland

I have a Jar with a metal lid and handle. It is black with coloured blossoms and butterflies and has a gold rim around the bottom, it stands 5 1/2 inches tall [ but taller if you put the handle up] I would very much appreciate it if you could let me know what you think it would be worth. It has a crown stamp on the bottom with W. Lowe. L on it. and above that Royal Sydney Ware. Thank you. I look forward to your your comments.
Large oval platter
by: Yolanda L

It's about 15' long with a width of 10".
It is off white, with light blue trim.
Would you have and pictures that you can display?
Royal Sydney Ware
by: Helen

I have earthenware: Royal Sydney ware with crown under name then W LOWE under crown, under that L. The item I believe is a cookie container, black with coloured flowers and silver lid & handle. Would love to know its value. I know it is at least 60 years old.
Royal Sydney Ware W Lowe Cookie Jar
by: Helen

Hi Glenda Holland,
re your W.Lowe L Jar: My earthenware item sounds exactly the same as yours. I would be happy for any information on how old the item is and its value.

Regards Helen
Pottery of W Lowe
by: ukoktan@yahoo.com.tr

I live in Turkey and have one ceramic plate (24 cm),egyptian black flowers on it and exactly the same makers initials at the back..
W Lowe L
by: a.umit koktan

I wrote earlier,have a ceramic plate with the same makers mark at the back.Will you please forward my mail address to �zlem.
ukoktan@yahoo.com.tr
thanks...
W Lowe Bee and Chain
by: Annette

I have a round W Lowe plate with a bee, then the word "chain" in a ribbon, the W Lowe below it and and a L below that.

I would to know the age of the item as it belonged to my grandmother who died in 1931 or possible her mother.

If you could send me an email address, I'll send you a photograph of the mark on the back as well as the front of the page.
W Lowe Bee and Chain
by: Annette

I have a round W Lowe plate with a bee, then the word "chain" in a ribbon, the W Lowe below it and and a L below that.

I would to know the age of the item as it belonged to my grandmother who died in 1931 or possible her mother.

If you could send me an email address, I'll send you a photograph of the mark on the back as well as the front of the page.
W Lowe Bee and Chain
by: Annette

I have a round W Lowe plate with a bee, then the word "chain" in a ribbon, the W Lowe below it and and a L below that.

I would to know the age of the item as it belonged to my grandmother who died in 1931 or possible her mother.

If you could send me an email address, I'll send you a photograph of the mark on the back as well as the front of the page.

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Hi Annette

Thanks for your contribution, please send the photos to....

peter@theclayartist.com
w lowe
by: Alper

dear Sir/Ma'am,
grandmom has a plate with a mark of sail ship with W Lowe signature. What i must do to get moreonformation about it?

br

alper
Marine wil L
by: Cesur

Selam bu arı figurune ait 24cm genişliğinde biri derin diğeri servis tabağı gibi olan iki adet eser bulunmaktadır Dedemin annesinden kalmışlar. Birinin ortasında gemi yanlarında at ve insanlar ve sus işlemeli diğeri ise tabağına ortasında büyük Sümbül gibi çiçek motifli yanlarında kenarinda ise aynı çiçeklerden işlenmiş gayet iyi durumdalar aslı astari nedir bunların gercekmidir. Fiyatı nedir.

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Translation

Hi, there are two artifacts belonging to this bee figurine, 24 cm wide, one deep and the other like a serving plate. They were inherited from my grandfather's mother. In the middle of one, the ship is embroidered with horses and people on the sides, and the other is embroidered with a flower motif like a big Hyacinth in the middle, and the same flowers are embroidered on the sides. What's the price.
Green plate William lowe
by: Annette

I have a green Chinese pattern plate from William Lowe. I can not read the word above on the backside. Something like Eolondine?
Please can you tell me something more about it.
Dating W Lowe Bee Mark
by: Peter (admin)

Hi All

Thanks to all the contributions on this topic so far.

I have been gathering information and evidence of the dating and authenticity of this mark. It has been tricky because I couldn't find the Lowe bee mark in any of my books or online.

The Potteries.org website lists 10 Lowe marks, but not this one.

So. let's start with the date of this factory's existence....

The second phase of this unit began in 1875 when Lowe ended his partnership with John Tams. Lowe died in 1898, but the use of his name continued until c.1931.

From the familial evidence of provenance given above by various contributors, we can see this was a genuine mark dating back to the late 19th or early 20th century, although it does not appear to be chronicled anywhere (apart from here).

I was lucky enough to be contacted by Annette, one of the forum contributors who gave me a family timeline of her piece with this mark.

First, I'll show Annette's pics, then describe the timeline...


w-lowe-bee-pottery-mark



Timeline

Annette's mother inherits the plate aged 9 in 1931 when her mother died aged 52.

So, the plate may have been around a decade or two before that maybe? Let's say; made in c.1910 - 1925? Although Annette says that she also has some Wood and Son pieces from her grandma which are marked as prior to 1907, so the Lowe could well be earlier too, maybe around turn of the century or even late 19th C.

To conclude, at first, I wasn't even sure this was a genuine mark, but now I am sure it is genuine.

As for value, I think this maker was good quality and is rare nowadays, and this is a genuine antique. However, there is no market for it as such, as it's such an obscure name, and therefore has gained no notoriety or collectability value.

So, the value would be just a few dollars per plate. Maybe more for a vase or other type of decorative item.

Interestingly, this name was good enough for Chinese makers to 'borrow' it for a touch of authenticity to go along with their fake 1895 date on the stamp (see above).

Best regards

Peter

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