Whether its English pottery marks or German porcelain marks, Japanese vintage backstamps or Chinese seal marks, the abundance of unknown branding logos sometimes can seem like a frighteningly huge subject to tackle.
But never fear, your friendly online guide is here to help you through this maze of china marks! On this page there is a quick (OK, fairly quick) run-through of the basics of mark identification (it tells you how to look for clues to how these sometimes mad hieroglyphics work).
If you have a search around our China Chat posts, you will see we specialise in helping people in identifying their mystery marks.But, if your head's coming off and you just need some help, just email me at peter
@theclayartist.com to find out about my evaluation reports. They start from $7.95 USD if you have a few to do, and single one off items cost $19.97 USD.
Sleuthing is where the fun lies.
Together we have uncovered the origin of marks shown nowhere else online.
Our China Chat discussions are a place where we get the opportunity to contribute
together. The more of us
get involved, the knowledge base gradually expands. 7 years and counting...
We have invented the 'social media' space for identifying pottery marks. You (the site visitors) invented this system, not me. I just went along with it and facilitated somewhere for us to store our knowledge!
Thank you all.
Some of the mystery marks we have been confronted with
The China Chat discussions are an easily searchable
online record of mystery pottery marks and I want it to be the biggest
and best online..... with your help.
Where To Go If You Can't Find Your AnswerThese pottery mark forum discussions are an ever growing resource for all to benefit from. It all began with a single query. We now have thousands of successful outcomes.
Some people have boxes and garages full of stuff to move on and it's driving them mad. I am in the process of building a new members forum to help people in this situation. If this is you, and you may be interested with being helped in this way, just keep up to date with developments by signing up to my email list here:
Ok, let's start thinking about this logically. In terms of where your mystery marks come from, the number one suspects for mystery marks are likely to be England and Germany - due to sheer volume of production from those countries over many generations.
German marks are perhaps the most difficult to track down and form the biggest section of mark identifications ...more
France, of course was a big player too, but we have many less queries about French china makers marks ....see exactly why here
American china making came into its own, developing from utilitarian to sophisticated bone china, with the Californian art pottery making a welcome jam in the sandwich. See more on the overall picture of the development of American pottery marks and the main companies involved here . . . more
BUT! many of them are subtle, so you have to tune in......
For example, post-war Japanese export china often uses Western looking marks. On close inspection though the production often has giveaway clues of origin. More on Japanese and Chinese wares here....
"The very pottery marks on the bottom of a piece of rare crockery are able to throw me into a gibbering ecstasy" - Mark Twain
Continue reading below.... (↓)
The trade-marks act came in 1862 so if you see the words 'Trade Mark' (see above photo) think late Victorian.
Similarly, the word 'Limited', or 'Ltd' was not used until the 1860's or thereafter.
....Whereas, the letter 'R N' (which stand for 'Registered Number' - see above photo) was later and didn't start until the 1880's.
You see, so knowing your pottery marks is all about putting feelers out to pick up the subtle clues.
Now, we had to separate out the 'valuation' aspects from the identification forums because they started to get messy and go off topic. Identification is one thing, valuations are quite another. Appraisals need an expert impartial eye with no question of a vested interest creeping in.
So for valuation requests (and that covers a lot of people) we had to invent a quicker (paid for) service - the best online (I would say that because I run it - but it's true).
For those not sure whether their items are worth the appraisal fee, I wrote a couple of different pages suggesting how you might do a bit of research on the value yourself first. You might have some fun with my free 'ready-reckoner price calculator'. I designed it in order to give you an idea of where your item might fit into a price range.
I also wrote a page giving a run-down of how you might use ebay and other resources to gauge the value of your stuff.
Also, at some point, you may want to go and have a quick look at this page:- Discovering the Value of Antiques which mentions good places both online and offline I often use to research items.
In reality, there are two jobs to do if you seriously need to put a value to your china set, both of which this website will help you with:
The first is to identify the specific pottery mark and once that is done, the second job is to get an idea of the value.
Use my China Manufacturers A to Z guide
here on this site should give you the key information you need about most notable makers. If not in this guide, there will probably information about them somewhere within the China Chat posts (just use the site search facility).
Want to go to the pottery mark China Chat?....
This special search box searches all the posts in a jiffy.....
A website I find invaluable for researching Staffordshire makers and marks is one you might want to bookmark too: