Weird German Cheese Plate Found in Florida? Antique & Fine China Query

by Bob Wadsworth
(Florida)

Weird German Cheese Plate Found in Florida? Antique & Fine China Query:- I recently found a porcelain cheese plate that caught my attention because of it's looks and makers marks. It appears to be made by a German company that doesn't exist anymore ... Royal something!? I've attached some pictures to see if anyone can help me figure out it's history.

Bob in Florida

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Reply by Peter (admin)

To Weird German Cheese Plate Found in Florida? Antique & Fine China Query

Hi Bob

Thanks for your interesting query about on your weird cheese dish. I would have loved to take a look at the 'weirdness'. We like weirdness!

The photo you sent in is a little faint and far away, so do you have a clearer close up one? I can make out the word 'BOKE' or 'Bore', but not much else. An relatively unknown maker like this is even more important to have clear photos.

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UPDATE

Taking a second look at the mark above, I can now see it says "Imperial Bonn".

I believe this to be a mark of 'Imperial Wessel' (Ludwig Wessel), Poppelsdorf, Bonn, 1755 - 1970.

They made faience wares as well as luxury porcelain and also utility wares - a well known maker I write about elsewhere on this site.

Best regards

Peter (admin)

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Maker for the 'Weird German Cheese Plate'! Dumler Breiden Hohr, Germany OR is it Imperial Bonn?
by: Mary Evans

The mark you show on the bottom of your item is from Dumler and Breiden, Hohr Germany.

I have a bowl from this factory which is also quite unique for a antique. It is a wide shallow bowl with very heavy scalloped edges and a wide gold paste rim.

The color is in a baby blue glaze. Not at all what you would ordinarily see in antique items, but perfect for Dumler and Breiden. They experimented with salt glazes and used blue and purple at the time.

Dumler and Breiden are a well known and respected factory that was in one of the peak areas for ceramics in Germany. The factory was in Hohr, which is situated near Coblentz.

Their items are specialized and highly collectible. I don't really have enough space to give all info here. I suggest you read more about the makers online by doing a Google search for Dumler Breiden Hohr, Germany. You will receive many hits!

I would love to see your item! Mine is rather off the wall. If you saw it at an antique show, you would think it was a mistake! I absolutely adore my bowl! It is unique, one of a kine and a conversation starter.

Good Luck!

Mary

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Further comment by Peter (admin)

to Mary's comment about entry "Maker for the 'Weird German Cheese Plate'! Dumler Breiden Hohr, Germany OR is it Imperial Bonn?"

Hi Mary

Many thanks for your wonderful contribution. Now I simply must see these marvelous wares! Please could one of you (preferably both Mary and Bob) upload some photos. That would be great! Pretty please.

Now, because my attention was drawn back to Bob's submission because of your comment, I took a second look at the pottery mark shown.

To my surprise, my eyes saw something I missed first time. Strange how this can sometimes happen.

When I re-looked, it seemed totally clear to me the words on the mark said "Imperial Bonn".

I believe this to be a mark of ?Imperial Wessel? (Ludwig Wessel), Poppelsdorf, Bonn, 1755 - 1970.

They made faience wares as well as luxury porcelain and also utility wares - a well known maker I write about elsewhere on this site.

For another example of the mark go to go to this page which is an entry about various makers using the word "Imperial".

Not being familiar with Dumler Breiden I looked for examples of their marks to see if they were similar to Imperial Wessel Bonn. Actually all I could find, both in my books and online was a D and B mark where the 2 letters formed the hilt of crossed swords.

Mary, please try to clear up this mystery as to a second mark of Dumler Breiden which looks similar to the Imperial Bonn mark of Bob's.

Thanks again for your interest and contribution.

Peter (admin)

Re: D & B baby blue and purple glazes
by: Charles Payne

Hello Mary,

Hope you are well.
Your comments regarding D&B experimenting with Salt glazes in the colour of Baby Blue and Purple.

Could you tell me up to what period that they were still doing this? I have a very large vase 50 cms tall, I believe to be done by D&B and in the baby blue and purple glaze and it looks a lot like Salt glaze....it looks like orange peel or leather and it is not smooth like the usual lead glazes. What is your source of that information?
Your help would be much appreciated. I have a picture I can e-mail for you to see....if you wish. My e-mail addres is.....

clmpayne AT hotmail DOT com

Thank you
Best Regards
Charles Payne,
Montreal, Canada.