Winged Crown Mark on Great Aunt Zina's China Cup and Saucer

by Guy Russel
(Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

Flying Wing Crown Mark on Great Aunt Zina's China Cup and Saucer

Flying Wing Crown Mark on Great Aunt Zina's China Cup and Saucer

Teacups and saucers are kind of like socks orphaned by the dryer which remain in the sock drawer long after their mate’s demise.


When a teacup breaks the now orphaned saucer remains in the pile in the cupboard in the kitchen, at least that's what we do.

Maybe it’s a memento of the set. Like my favourite cup and saucer, a Queen Anne Fine Bone China with pink dandelions (crepis incana).

At one point we had two of these, then one and finally now just two saucers. When it broke I was inconsolable as I had been drinking tea from it for 50 years.

Tea is an important part of our weekly ritual. I visit my mom on the weekend and we always have a cup in the late afternoon.

The Murchie Tea Company in Vancouver has been supplying the family brew since 1920 something.

However, if you have nothing else to do on a cold January day then please read on!).

This whole thing started at lunch today when I commented to my mother that we might be able to find some teacups to match the orphaned saucers by searching on-line.

After looking for a Paragon cup and coming up with nothing Mom started pulling out the old pieces to see if we could find out more about them...

One cup and saucer set only had a mark on the base, no words or other distinguishing marks. Mom (who is now 94) acquired the cup and saucer along with others from her mother who had inherited them from her aunt Zina.

Great aunt Zina was born Ameliasburg in Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada, in 1869 to Mary Emily and Marshall Johnstone who owned the flour mill.

After Marshall Johnstone died in 1895, Mary Emily sold the mill and took the four girls to Brandon, Manitoba - we don't know why she picked Brandon.

Aunt Zina married a lawyer named Havlock Cooper and moved with him to Winnipeg. They had two children, both boys who did not have children of their own which ended the Cooper family. Great Aunt Zina liked to collect china
but only a few of her large collection survive.

One Staffordshire, some Minton, and a lovely Coalport cup and saucer with an Indian tree pattern and the number 14J18 on the saucer.

To the matter at hand. We have tried using a Google Image search to see if the algorithm can find any matches to the mark. The results were beaded jewelry and then, when refined, teacup pigs in pink clothing – no I’m not kidding, this is the internet after all.

Then I went to typing in a description of the mark, “china makers mark crown with wings” and got lots of results one of which was a resource of marks but got tired after page 16 of countless pages and with no way to refine our search we went back to Google.

Finally we came upon this website and thought we would ask for help!

It is frustrating not to have a language to describe the mark.

Raised wings on a 5 pointed crown with something in the middle – a rose perhaps – does not help.

This whole world is new to us and we are hoping that someone will recognize it. Not concerned about finding a lost treasure or a valuable antique, just very curious to find out where this comes from and when.

A story to tell the great grands when they come for tea with Mom.

Guy

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Dear Guy

Lovely piece of writing. You have a talent. Thanks for the family background - loved reading your piece, laconic, loose and lush with detail.

Thanks for 'getting' what this website is about.

So onto your mark...

here's a bigger close up for folks to see better the splendid image of your winged crown mark:


crown-with-wings-porcelain-mark



This mark is unknown to me currently. I have never seen it before and at the moment can't find it any references.

It's a very characteristic mark and one you won't forget too easily.

Let's hope we have some luck in others posting. If people have the same mark at least we'll know how widespread this mark is.

Best regards

Peter (admin)


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Thanks
by: Guy

Hi Peter,

Thanks so much for the comments and for researching the mark. We are looking forward to seeing if anyone can help figure out where this cup and saucer come from.

Good luck to us all!

Guy

identifing winged crown mark? NEW
by: Anonymous

Has anyone ever identified the mark?

I have a piece NEW
by: Trevor

Hi
I have a very nice inkwell with the same mark on it ,mostly orangey red with a robin design to the top of lid ,it is square sided ,one side has a bunch of grapes ,second flower and red bird ,third side flowers fourth side possibly rose hips .approx 7cm high 6-7cm square

Same mark NEW
by: John

I have a cup and saucer (London UK) with the same mark. Different to aunt zina's but the same mark. Can't find any reference to it other than here .p

Ink well NEW
by: Vera

I have just bought (£9.99) from Oxfam in Oldham UK
two inkwells identical to those described above with a small matching fairly flat dish.

winged crown makers mark NEW
by: wendy

I have also have a piece with the winged crown mark and I believe its Asian most likely Japanese. It is not British China.

same! NEW
by: Britt

Hi Guy,

I have the exact same mark on a plate! The plate has a painted picture of birds over a mash with a mountain in the background. It feels Asian but, although I'm no expert, I'm pretty sure the mark is not Asian. I'm still looking and I will certainly inform you if I get an answer. Or if you have already discovered the mark please let me know. :)

Britt

Answer NEW
by: Anonymous

This mark is Boseck & Co., Austria

Ruby Lane, MissSmithVT

Same design NEW
by: AnonymousTrevor

Saw this on a link ,this is same design as my inkwell mentioned above
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Haida-Bohemia-Porcelain-Aesthetic-Movement-Japonaiserie-Square-Bowl-1880s-/162749153701?hash=item25e49b01a5

Same mark NEW
by: Anonymous

I have a dish with the same mark. It says Made in Austria.

Boseck Company Austria now Czech NEW
by: Anonymous

Winged Crown

Hello
by: Maureen

Hi Guy,
I don't know anything about said cups & saucers but have not heard from Zina for months.
Give her my love & love to hear from you all.

Me, too NEW
by: Anonymous

I Have a demitasse cup and saucer with this mark, too. Have you found anything since your post?

china mark NEW
by: Anonymous

That was easy. CARL Friedrich BOSECK & Co possibly 1892-1934 EARLY RED STAMP, manufactured in Haida, Bohemia (now Czechoslovakia)

Bohemian Haida porcelain 1888... aunt Zina NEW
by: Naomi

We have a set of 10 plates with the beautuful painted birds, plus a large serving platter. Each of 5 bird scenes is reversed, forming the set of 10 plates. "Bohemian Haida 1888" on the handwritten lable. Acquired from our Yugoslavian friends o.b.m. who were born around 1900

Rad Crown mark with wings
by: Dale

The mark is of an Austrian maker. Hope that helps

Karl Friederich Bosek Flying Crown Mark NEW
by: David Bruce

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