Antique or Fine China english ironstone green /white patterned plate

by debbie
(wales)

Antique or Fine China english ironstone green /white patterned plate:- I am looking to find how old this plate is and a bit about it . i picked up 4 from a car boot for one pound . the hall mark says english ironstone england. the plates has green pattern with a scene of horses and hounds gathering for a hunt in a farm yard. cant seem to find anything on the hall mark any ideas

Debbie xx??

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Antique or Fine China english ironstone green /white patterned plate

Hi Debbie

I will look into this one and write in the thread below. I have a hunch, but I need to do a bit more research.

Best regards

Peter (admin)

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Green and white ironstone plates
by: Anonymous

I have some too and cant find anything on them. Have you managed to find anything??

Modern English Mass-produced Ironstone?
by: anon.

I believe this brand is is EIT = English Ironstone Tableware Ltd. It made volume (but nice looking and reasonable quality) tableware for lower end chains like Woolworths (UK) in the 1980's and 1990's, but lasted only until the year 2000.

They were creating a traditional look and playing on the prestige of older Victorian Ironstone Staffordshire makers like Johnson Bros, Adams, Woods etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the big UK makers had a hand in this line - but keeping it unpublicised so as to protect their names from being seen in the cheaper mass market stores.

They were actively trying to take on the Far East makers in a desperate attempt to survive.

It didn't work. Nothing did.

The time and tide waits for no man and within 8 or 9 years of EIT closing, all the big makers were in administration including....

Wedgwood

Royal Doulton

Coalport

Spode

Royal Worcester

The makers that survived in more than just 'brand label' form only were proper firms like Portmeirion and Emma Bridgewater.

The secret?

They were both run by talented designer/artists (both female) who saw design as THE only and absolute priority. There was nothing else. Only trite bullshit, spun by stupid executive types and accountants, quickly slapped down (or at least kept under control) by the far seeing matriarchs.

Therefore, the profits looked after themselves and the design led companies are strong commercial forces in the modern (much changed) market.

The big firms were, without exception, run by thrusting executive types with small genitalia (metaphorically speaking) and big bonuses.

Unfortunately Susan Williams-Ellis of Portmeirion fame recently died and the new person I met now in charge didn't impress me much, unfortunately. Expect a downturn in fortunes of Portmeirion before too long.

You heard it here first.

The last thing I saw was that Portmeirion had bought the name of Royal Worcester and were making cheap Gipsy figurines in the Far East featuring Romany women holding the hand painted Worcester fruit.

OMG! How the mighty have fallen. Dr. Wall will be turning in his grave, and I feel as if I'm about to vomit.

Rant over....

anon.

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