Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery mark apart from "FOREIGN"
Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery mark apart from
Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery mark apart from "FOREIGN":- Hi to everyone at this fabulous website, please help...... My mum gave me the coffee set that my dad had bought her at the end of the sixties beginning of the seventies, and it spent years and years being lovingly cared for in my mums glass cabinet (the same glass cabinet that i think everyone's mum had). My mum and dad divorced many years ago (28)and then it spent it's life in my mums garage, during a clear out she asked me if i would like to have it, i took from my mum but i thought i could maybe find out a bit more about it.
I have the coffee pot and six small cups and six small saucers my mum does not think that she had the sugar bowl or milk jug.
My mum can't remember where my dad bought it from and we can't even guarantee that it was in this country as my Dad was a long distance lorry driver and travelled everywhere from Germany and Poland to Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
I saw the other post from the guy with the Foreign mark but my coffee set is so different to his that i was intrigued.
I would be extremely grateful if you could shed any light on where this may have come from, i am not sure if it is bone china, porcelain or even if the gold decoration is actually gold.
It would be wonderful to find out if it was actually worth anything then i could treat my mum, as my dad was a total pig to her for many years it would be great to think that he could cause her a small bit of happiness...
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Peter (admin) says:-
Thanks for your complement about the website and your touching story.
I don't think these sets are worth all that much - perhaps the cost of a nice meal out, but I am no expert on values, and you really need an expert assessment. Put it this way, this is a nice set, but not Meissen.
However, I think you have maybe helped with a clue
to another long-standing query (here Gold Crown Pottery Mark with no other letters or devices
The items are not the same pattern nor do they have the same mark, but somehow they look similar in style and make. The clue is the sheen of the glaze which has a kind of lustre and the branch decoration details. Below is a detail from that page....
These wares have a single gold crown mark and nothing else to give any clues as to their origins. On that page Somer shares with us a report written by an expert who says this is German or Austrian cabinet ware (yes, millions of families still have that cabinet full of best china).
I always had a doubt about this set being Germany or Austria because it looks to me a bit like the wares I would expect to come out of Japan in the post-war 1950's (far be it for me to question the experts, but I felt maybe they had got this one wrong).
In your submission, you gave a possible clue which may prove that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and it is me who is wrong (again).
The clue is the word 'foreign'. This was put on wares destined for the UK or USA (the main two English speaking markets). However, from about the beginning of the 20th century, both countries required more details of origin than 'foreign'. They wanted the actual country, written in the Queens English (in the US, the act was called the 1890 The McKinley Tariff Bill, and in the UK it was the 1897 British Merchandise Marks Act).
So it looks like these wares either pre-date the UK act of 1897 because they do not conform to the legislation, but there again, they may have had Far East 1950's sticky labels which have fallen off).
The first case would mean the set was more likely to be German/Austrian because Japan was still calling itself 'Nippon' on it's markings then.
I don't think your Dad picked up this set on his travels simply because it has a label made for the UK.
OK, not sure I have been of any help, but I liked your submission very much, so thanks.
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