Royal Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above

by Teresa Hess
(Fort Worth TX)

Royal(?) Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above

Royal(?) Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above

Royal(?) Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above:- Hi, Everyone, I found this sculpture of man/woman which is just beautiful but has suffered some damage. Even with that you just are drawn to to two of them sculpted into one flowing piece. On the bottom there is a shape like a diamond pointed down with with looks like three flowing tips on top that looks like a crown. Inside is the RW over the 6.


Out side of that about three inches away are
numbers 3405. If you could help me that would be so great!

Blessings,

Tee

Reply from Peter (admin) below - just scroll down


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Reply by Peter (admin)

To:- ‘Royal(?) Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above’ query

Hi Tee

Welcome to this section of the site, and thank you so much for sharing your story of the RW pottery mark and figural group.

It's obvious you have a real feeling for fine sculpture and finely made figurines - with the way you are 'drawn' to flowing lines and the expression of a piece.

.....and what a piece it sounds like you have found!

I just wish you could have sent in some photos for us all to share.

However, I have uploaded some of my own pics of the RW diamond/lozenge mark so as to show viewers what we are referring to.

There is much confusion over this mark and the various factories and history of the region this maker comes from - not least from me (a non-expert about German porcelain manufacturers).

However, I will do my best to unravel it all - but if I have got some details wrong, I would love a more knowledgeable contributor to put us straight.

OK, the first misconception, according to the excellent site pm&m is that the name "Royal Rudolstadt" has nothing whatsoever with this backstamp. So your title is misleading to visitors.

However, sellers on ebay often make this 'mistake' also.

"Royal Rudolstadt" is a registered name of a Rudolstadt firm called Beyer and Bock, nothing to do with the above RW mark.

Your RW mark was registered in the German Trademark of Registry on May 2, 1896 by U. S. importers Lewis Straus & Sons in New York - who owned Macy's.

This mark was used as well as their L.S.& S. mark. Apart from Rudolstadt, they had subsidiary factories in Carlsbad, Bohemia and Limoges, France.

As I say, they did not own the Royal Rudolstadt brand name which was registered, much to their annoyance, by arch-rivals from Rudolstadt, Beyer and Bock.

Now to add to confusion, Straus & Son registered the name "Royal Schwarzburg" in 1924 (also the year they reformed under the name of Nathan Straus & Co).

This has
led to people associating the RW mark with that of the oldest and original Volkstedt Royal Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt Porcelain Factory of Thuringia founded C. 1762 called the "Oldest Volkstedt Porcelain Factory" (translated directly from the German name).

Confused? You ought to be, it is very confusing!

So let's rewind for a minute....

A Short History of Rudolstadt

The ancient city is Rudolstadt

Volkstedt is within the city to the south west.

The city of Rudolstadt is one of the ancient royal seats of Thuringia. The Prince who gave the Royal license to first produce porcelain in 1760 was known as the prince of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt.

His stronghold, Heidecksburg Castle, is a Thuringian Baroque palace still standing in the Old City (it fell behind the Soviet block, but survived more or less in tact. Most houses in the Old City date from the l5th to l6th centuries).

So Rudolstadt is the city, and Volkstedt is an area located to the south west of the city where the original Royal Volkstedt factory (Aelteste Volkstedter Porzellanfabrik - "aelteste" meaning "oldest").

To this Volkstedt porcelain factory, the Prince Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt had granted the sole rights to produce porcelain the region. This monopoly ended in 1832.

Other firms jumped in after that date and those names include Straus & Son (est. 1882); Beyer & Bock (est. 1890); Schäfer & Vater (est. 1890); Richard Eckert & Co.(est. 1895); Ernest Bohne and Sons (est. 1901); Müller & Co (est. 1907), Ackermann & Fritze (est. 1908).

In 1937 the original Volkstedt/Rudolstadt factory merged with Porzellanfabrik Unterweißbach or Unterweissbach (aka Mann & Porzelius).

Three people jointly founded this original Volkstedt/Rudolstadt porcelain factory: Georg Heinrich Macheleid (1723-1801), the Prince of Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt Johann Friedrich von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt (1721-1767) and August Friedrich North (1733-1798).

There's a great article on the history of this Thuringian European maker www.porcelainsite.com here:

Here's an extract from the site:

"The Volkstedt factory had an extraordinary collection of products: Coffee , chocolate and tea sets, candlesticks, vases, large decorated plates, wash-basins, steins, butter boxes, buttons, butts for guns and rapiers, medals and the famous figurines. The catalog from 1795 says that the factory produced 90 different figurine models. In 1832 the Volkstedt factory renounced from the privilege. That was the start for the foundation of other porcelain factories in the principality Schwarzburg Rudolstadt and of course in Volkstedt."

OK, remember this factory is different to the later Rudolstadt based company who registered your RW mark - that was Straus & Son - the very same guys that owned Macy's department store in New York.

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Comments for Royal Rudolstadt Blue 'R W' Initials Within a Diamond Shaped Shield Pottery Mark with Crown Above

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Vase
by: Sheila

I just came to find a vase that has the RW in the crest also. Are these pieces actually worth anything?

RW initials with diamond-crown
by: Jay


hi, did you ever find out if your RW piece was worth anything. And were there any other markings?
I have similar situation I found in my attic a Vase dated 1820 with the RW markings. Thanks for a reply.

same marking
by: Anonymous

I too have a vase that has handles on it gold leaf paintings.
on bottom same as the picture you had here.
there is a number 14 in blue also 203
and 20
still has some gold in the leaf designs
can you tell me more
thank you
nolah

RW Statue
by: Pat

Baby Blue Bisque Statue of a boy dressed in baby blue with gold leaf on hi outfit, stamped # 3262 with a 2 underneath and to the left of the 3. A 69 in gold and dated 1893. Anyone know it's value?

Ivory vase
by: B.J. Meldrum

I have an Ivory colored vase with flowers and leaves on one side of it. It has a small opening at the top, and small handles on each side of the opening. There are flowers and leaves outlined and gold relief. The vase has 4 small legs that hold up the circular vase.
The markings are on the small bottom. They are an R W within a diamond, topped with a crown. There are also 2 numbers on each side of the R W. The number on the right side is in blue. There is also a larger stamped number on the right next to the blue number.

Pottery markings
by: Mark

Remember, not only is the RW diamond hallmark a little confusing by so are the incised numbers and hand painted marks. Someone mentioned here their piece had the numbers 1820. That is not a year mark. It is most likely a mold number or a size number or other. Hand painted marks in gold black or red can be a painters initials, size number etc. Anyhow, these marked pieces can be very pleasing to the eye which is what we want.

RW NEW
by: Anonymous

I believe the RW was for RW Macy which was iwned by Lazarus Straus & Sons.. not Lewis Straus

vase with RW in gold NEW
by: Anonymous

I have a vase that has the RW but it is in gold not blue is this different than all the others I have not been able to find anything with gold

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