Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query

by CS

Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query

Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query

Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query:- Trying to help a friend identify this mark. In addition to the marks visible in this photo, it also has an E (or roman numeral III?), and a number 655 on it. The vase itself is sort of victorian/baroque if that makes any sense.


I will upload a picture of that following this one.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

CS

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Reply by Peter (admin)

to Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query

Hi CS

If it was blurry for you, then your blurry and very far away photo made it double blurry for me!! LOL

I tried to enhance the photo the best I could, but I can't begin to help unless you can take a CLEAR photo of your blurry pottery mark.

Generally, blurry backstamps mean older wares because nowadays they have the technology to be clear - and blurry means hand applied (by possibly drunk employee).

That drunk employee may well have been a colleague of mine at the Royal Worcester Company, because I found a vase made by Royal Worcester for Tiffany & Co New York which obviously came out of the same mould and had the same snake handles (the hand application makes the snakes slightly different on each one).

I can only presume the stamp must be for a retailer or distributor, because it is nothing like any of the typical Worcester marks I have seen, but why they would not include the Worcester name alongside their own (as did the Tiffany stamp) who knows? Any Worcester association would make the item more valuable.

Hope this helps somewhat, although it has confused me more.

Regards

Peter (admin)

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Thanks...follow up question to Crown over blurry green mark on snake handled vase Query
by: CS

Thank you Peter. Very impressed. Sorry for the quality of the photo of the mark. That's what she gave me to work with.

Is it possible that the vase was a second (perhaps the explanation of one of the other marks on the bottom of the vase) and Worcester didn't want to put its mark on it, selling it unfired to someone else to decorate/brand/sell?

Also, do you know the approximate date of the Tiffany & Co. vase that you posted the picture of?

Thanks much,
CS

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Reply by Peter (admin)

Not sure of any date on the Tiffany Worcester vase. Could be any time really as Worcester have never stopped making prestige vases. I saw similar on ebay selling for a buy-it-now price of about $350 USD.

Royal Worcester Serpent Handle Vase
by: Anna

Your vase is indeed by Royal Worcester, shape no 655, and came in a variety of different sizes, designs and/or colours for the main body but always with the three serpent/snake handles. As to why there is no Royal Worcester backstamp no-one will ever know and sometimes an impressed mark could be used but without the backstamp/impressed mark the exact date of production cannot be confirmed, although these were normally produced around 1878 during the aesthetic period. If after firing an item was classed as "seconds" it was normal for it to be glazed white and would not be hand painted in the way that yours is. (Examples of "seconds" in Royal Worcester and other manufacturers are sold often as blanc de chine). I think you have a lovely example of fine porcelain. Hope this helps

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