Whether its English pottery marks or German porcelain marks, Japanese vintage backstamps or Chinese seal marks, the abundance of unknown branding logos sometimes can seem like a frighteningly huge subject to tackle.
But never fear, your friendly online guide is here to help you through this maze of china marks! On this page there is a quick (OK, fairly quick) run-through of the basics of mark identification (it tells you how to look for clues to how these sometimes mad hieroglyphics work).
If you have a search around our China Chat posts, you will see we specialise in helping people in identifying their mystery marks.
As a general rule, people think of bone china being an English type of ware, which in the main it is. The English company Spode finally got the recipe perfected in 1799. After that, other English makers followed.
On the European continent, the makers were mainly concerned about emulating the great German firm of Meissen who had finally discovered the long hidden secret of true Chinese porcelain in 1710.
Marks You Are Most Likely To HavePottery mark encyclopedias show countless thousands of marks, but the vast majority of which we are unlikely to ever see in our homes, so we are not so much interested in those here.
We are not an encyclopedia website in that sense, just a guide to what you are most likely to have in your home.
We just enjoy solving the mysteries as posted by our visitors.
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Sleuthing is where the fun lies.
Together we have uncovered the origin of marks shown nowhere else online.
Some of the mystery marks we have been confronted with
Our China Chat discussions are a place where we get the opportunity to contribute
together. The more of us
get involved, the knowledge base gradually expands. 7 years and counting...
We have invented the 'social media' space for identifying pottery marks. You (the site visitors) invented this system, not me. I just went along with it and facilitated somewhere for us to store our knowledge!
Thank you all.
The China Chat discussions are an easily searchable
online record of mystery pottery marks and I want it to be the biggest
and best online..... with your help.
Where To Go If You Can't Find Your AnswerThese pottery mark forum discussions are an ever growing resource for all to benefit from. It all began with a single query. We now have over one thousand successful outcomes.
These pottery mark forum discussions are an ever growing resource for all to benefit from.
GO HERE... if you want to post your own contribution to the rich variety of our China Chat space...
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Ok, let's start thinking about this logically. In terms of where your mystery marks come from, the number one suspects for mystery marks are likely to be England and Germany - due to sheer volume of production from those countries over many generations.
German marks are perhaps the most difficult to track down and form the biggest section of mark identifications ...more
France, of course was a big
player too, but we have many less queries about French china
makers marks ....see exactly why here
BUT! many of them are subtle, so you have to tune in......
For example, post-war Japanese export china often uses Western looking marks. On close inspection though the production often has giveaway clues of origin. More on Japanese and Chinese wares here....
"The very pottery marks on the bottom of a piece of rare crockery are able to throw me into a gibbering ecstasy" - Mark Twain
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The trade-marks act came in 1862 so if you see the words 'Trade Mark' (see above photo) think late Victorian.
Similarly, the word 'Limited', or 'Ltd' was not used until the 1860's or thereafter.
....Whereas, the letter 'R N' (which stand for 'Registered Number' - see above photo) was later and didn't start until the 1880's.
You see, so knowing your pottery marks is all about putting feelers out to pick up the subtle clues.
Now, we had to separate out the 'valuation' aspects from the identification forums because they started to get messy and go off topic. Identification is one thing, valuations are quite another. Appraisals need an expert impartial eye with no question of a vested interest creeping in.
So for valuation requests (and that covers a lot of people) we had to invent a quicker (paid for) service - the best online (I would say that because I run it - but it's true).
For those not sure whether their items are worth the appraisal fee, I wrote a couple of different pages suggesting how you might do a bit of research on the value yourself first. You might have some fun with my free 'ready-reckoner price calculator'. I designed it in order to give you an idea of where your item might fit into a price range.
I also wrote a page giving a run-down of how you might use ebay and other resources to gauge the value of your stuff.
Also, at some point, you may want to go and have a quick look at this page:- Discovering the Value of Antiques which mentions good places both online and offline I often use to research items.
In reality, there are two jobs to do if you seriously need to put a value to your china set, both of which this website will help you with:
The first is to identify the specific pottery mark and once that is done, the second job is to get an idea of the value.
Use my China Manufacturers A to Z guide
here on this site should give you the key information you need about most notable makers. If not in this guide, there will probably information about them somewhere within the China Chat posts (just use the site search facility).
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