Pottery mark query - Gold crown with no other marks

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Pottery mark query - Gold crown with no other marks

by Somer
(Dallas, TX)

the crown stamp on the bottom

My very much beloved Grandmother willed me a tea set. It's tiny and delicate, and has gold all over a lovely iridescent glaze.

I've looked all over trying to identify who made it. I don't want to sell it, and don't care to appraise it (it's priceless to me). I would like to find the maker so I can replace the lid to the sugar bowl, which is the only missing piece. My grandmother told me this was given to her on her wedding day, and she got so nervous holding it that she dropped the little sugar lid and broke it.

I'd very much like to complete the set and display it. Have you ever seen this crown before? I'm sorry my photo isn't clearer, but it's similar to the Wild Bros. crown in shape, but is stamped on the back in gold. There are no other identifying letters or designs, so I'm pretty stumped. I've also included a picture of the tea pot itself.

Somer

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Peter (admin) says:-

{UPDATE}

Read the comments below as Somer commissioned an report on her wares and has generously shared it on this forum. The expert was unable to identify the studio, but was of the opinion this was antique cabinet ware from Germany or Austria, rather than being 20th Century Far East manufacture. The value is also given.

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Pottery mark query - Gold crown with no other marks

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teaset info - Gold crown with no other marks - comment
by: Samantha

I have a tea set with this exact same mark on the bottom. The teapot, sugar, creamer and saucer have the mark however the cups do not they have a geisha girl lithograph in the bottom. I am fruitless in finding anything on my set. i have been researching now for eight months and nothing if you have found who the maker is or any info on it will you please contact me.... in the comments section below ....i would greatly appreciate it.

Need a Better Photo for Gold Crown Mark & Wares
by: Blake

If any of you with this tea set could post a better picture of the crown it would be much easier to attempt to identify.

Yours, Blake

{EDIT:- For instructions on how to add photos see comment by Peter (admin) couple of comments below.}

Tea Sets With Single Gold Crown Pottery Mark
by: Lori

I have the same tea set. I bought it 30 years ago at an antique shop in Houston, Texas. I am very interested in finding out more information on the set. Mine too has the Geisha girl in the cups. You can contact me by writing on this comments thread.

Regards

Lori

Mystery Gold Crown Mark on Tea Sets
by: Peter (admin)

Hi Guys

This is becoming a nice little thread with a few followers - so it's time to get going and find the mystery maker for this particular gold crown backstamp.

I have a sneaky feeling who this might be (amongst the hundreds of crown marks which proliferate from lots of different makers all over the world) BUT!!****** I need photos from a many of you as possible.

Here's what to do:-

Everybody! Please get together photos of your wares - I need CLEAR photos of the Stamp AND the items

Send me the pics to my direct email

Put the following in the subject title of your email to me (so as I know where the pics are for) "Thread - 'Gold Crown With No Other Marks' Follow Up Photos"

send the email to Click here to e-mail me your pics

If for some reason the above link is not working for you, then just copy and paste my address into your email:-

peter@theclayartist.com

I will add the pics to your individual posts

We will hopefully have a solution for all of you and also a great reference for other visitors who Google the same query

Thanks in advance

Peter (admin)

I Sent Peter Photos of God Crown Mark and Wares
by: Somer

Hi everyone. I've sent better (I hope) photos to Peter. My set doesn't have geisha though. All the pieces are stamped with that crown (4 tiny teacups, saucers, teapot, sugar bowl, and creamer), and all have a courting couple design over the iridescent glaze.

Very exciting!!

I have that same set as well!
by: Leslie

I also have the mini set - teacups saucers, teapot, sugar and creamer with the courting couple on the front -- trimmed out in 24K gold and stamped with the Gold Crown stamp on the bottom of each piece. The finish is an iridescent finish and I purchased the set from an antique store in Florida. I would very much like to know about the Crown Stamp and what it is worth. Does anyone know?

Thank you so much to everyone for your help.

what Peter found for me
by: Somer

Hi Leslie!!! First off, I'm really excited you found this set somewhere. My set is missing 1 piece, and if you still know the shop you got yours from, I'd be very interested to know the name so I could maybe call them and see if they could find that piece for me!!

Here's the report:
Description:
A German Or Austrian Porcelain Tea Service

Item Date: Mid 20th Century

Our expert's market report:
This service would appear to be European (Austrian or German) rather than Japanese export (studio unclassified), and from the period either side of the second world war. Interesting as family history, but transfer printed services of this type very are difficult to sell at auction at the moment, and many remain unsold at auctions. Replacement value equates to what you might see these services for sale at top retail prices and might be considered optimistic.

Estimated Replacement Value: Up to $100 USD

I hope you find this as interesting as I did! And again, please let me know if you have any info on the shop where you found it. I've been trying to find a lid for the sugar bowl for years.

Willing to Sell Gold Crown Set
by: Leslie

Hi Somer!

I just sent my photos of the china with the Gold Crown stamp to Peter in hopes of getting an appraisal / value / history for my set. Thank you for sharing the information you received! Once I have my research on pricing done, I would be willing to sell you the set (if ours do indeed match) but I don't want to break it up. The antique store I purchased the set from is "Antiques for You" in Orange Park, FL and they are located on Blanding Boulevard. I visit the store frequently and have not seen another set like the one I purchased. I bought it a few years ago and it was the only one like it in the store. I would be happy to send you the photos I have of my set so you can determine if our sets are the same. I hate to let mine go but I am out of a job at the present time and I am dipping into my collection of antiques to make extra cash. If our sets are the same, I would certainly be willing to make you a good deal! Just let me know if you would like to see the pics! Have a good evening,

Leslie

sure
by: somer

Leslie, please do send me the photos. My email is azzy23 at earthlink dot net (just replace the important bits with symbols).

I have a set that is the same
by: Barbara

it also has the sticker that says AA import co, St Louis, MO.

gold crown mark
by: Anonymous

was anyone able to identify this mark? I just ran across this site while doing some research on a cup and saucer set I have. iridescent with gold trim, colonial couple on decal in front of cup. cup has the backstamp, saucer doesn't.

Gold Crown Stamp
by: Mel

I am also trying to find the maker of these tea sets. I have Tea Pot, creamer, sugar bowl and 6 cups with saucers. Mine have a "royal" looking couple on them, gold trim, and are also irredescent. I see that several people found theirs in Florida, and that is where I found mine as well. I hope someone can track down the value!!

Same set in California
by: Mary

I have the very same demitasse tea service.
It simply has a gold crown on the bottom of every piece. I received this as a wedding present thirty two years ago in California from a relative who purchased it from local antique store. The gold and irridesence is beautiful but transfer of colonial couple is not very good quality. Because of this appears to be from the 1950's as said above - would love to know more about maker....thanks for everyone's input!

Hi, Somer again
by: Somer

I'm actually trying to find the exact set I have because it's missing the lid to the sugar pot. If anyone wants to send me pictures of their set (since my pictures were sooo bad), feel free to do so at azzy23 at earthlink dot net. I'll take a better picture of mine tonight, since we finally got the shelves up and are able to display the set.

Somer
9/21/11

Same tea set with the Crown Logo
by: Barb

I received the same tea set as a gift in the early 80's. I've never used it and its in perfect condition. I would be interested to know it's value. Barbie0306@yahoo.com

Solo Crown on Porcelain Cabinetware Tea Set
by: Michelle

Is this the tea set everyone is referring to? If not, do you have any info on this tea set? I bought mine at an estate sale in OK 15 years ago, I was told it had been in family for 75 years. I have 6 cups & saucers, creamer, sugar bowl with lid, and tea pot with lid. I am looking to sell...before it gets broken :)

Thank you for your time,

Michelle

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Peter (admin) says:-

Many thanks for the photos Michelle, nice and clear. See Somer's published expert report above for and idea of retail value. Auction value would be less (perhaps half).

tea set
by: Mel

My set appears to be the same set as Michelle has pictured. The couple in my applique seems to be a little clearer unless thats just picture quality. I am VERY INTERESTED IN SELLING MY SET. If anyone is interested in buying it please contact me at nowitsyours917@gmail.com

I have this tea set too!
by: Therese

It was bought in Japan when my mum was a little girl, the 70s I think, although I'm not sure how old it actually is. It has the gold crown and 'fine porcelain' on the bottom, nothing else. I'll try email photos soon =]

I've also found links to sets that look a lot like mine, in case they're of use to anyone.

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7135509

http://www.icollector.com/Couple-in-Garden-Tea-Set-with-Red-Trim_i9558121

http://www.patternsofthepast.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_48985&products_id=9085

Gold crown with no other marks- NEW
by: Brenda

So glad to finally find a common thread to help identify a porcelian tea set that I was given in the 80's. All of the comments describe mine. I have searched endlessly and found nothing to help me place a timeline or value on these beautiful pieces! The first crown posted matches mine. I have a complete set with cups & saucers in ruby with gold trim. The other is only teapot with creamer/sugar bowls and it is simply iridescent! Thanks for the info!

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