Pottery Mark Query - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R'

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Pottery Mark Query - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R'

by Toni
(Decatur, IN, USA)

Pottery Mark Query - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R'

Pottery Mark Query - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R':- My mom received this cake plate with pedestal in the 1970s as a Christmas gift from her employer. If I recall correctly, she picked it out of a book of items you could order based on your seniority.

The plate was made in Germany and is white with gold flowers and scroll work on the both plate itself and the pedestal.

I've searched and searched and can't locate the manufacturer associated with this stamp. Can you help?

Thanks for any direction that you can provide.

NOTE: I wasn't able to load a second picture. I can forward one of the item if you would like.

Toni

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To :- Pottery Mark Query - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R'

Hi Toni

You can upload a second picture simply by using a second submission form (unfortunately the form only allows one pic at a time). An easier way to do it is to merge your two photos into one image, and upload that.

(If you're not sure what I'm going on about, have a look at this great example of a merged photo. If you don't know how to merge photos, use my photo-merge service).

Here's a shortcut to the submission form for the pottery marks public forum as I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the item too.

Anyway, the "R" mark with a wreath shown is a completely new one to me.

The only well known German mark close to this is the RS with a wreath by Reinhold Schlegelmilch Porcelain manufacturer in Suhl Germany founded in the 1800s.

They exported much to the US but had a RS Wreath often with the word 'Prussia' written on.

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Same Problem with Pottery Mark - 'R' with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around 'R'
by: Frans van Leeuwen

Hello,

We've been searching around the net for this same porcelain mark and are very curious what you've found out about it.
We have a blue vase with silver (japanese like) flower decorations and we are very curious to know where it's from or who made it.
The only history we know is that my father bought it in Russia at the end of world war 2...
Please help us out if you can?!

kind regards,

Frans van Leeuwen, Holland.

same problem! with r mark with crown and wreath
by: canadien

Hi, i have two wonderful porcelain sets - dinner and tea - with the same mark. in addition it has "Made in German Democratic Republic" sign under it. the sets were bought in former Soviet union in 1981-82. i am looking for manufacturer because some of pieces were broken and I want to replace them.

Found Answer "R" with Crown above and Laurel wreath
by: Beth K

I have the same pottery and found the answer on the site link http://www.efineantiques.com/webpages/german_general1.htm

The mark indicates these are from the Reichenbach Porcelain Factory of Reichenbach, Thuringia, Germany. The GDR part of the mark is for "German Democratic Republic" (East Germany) which was established in 1949 and ended in 1990. Based on that, the pottery was made no earlier than 1949 and possibly as late as 1977 when the company put a different mark into use (Source: Directory of European Porcelain by Danckert, page 383).

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Peter (admin)

Says: Fantastic work Beth!

R Crown Mark
by: Peter (admin)

Beth

Just wanted to follow up on your great work by taking the opportunity to post up some research I have recently done following your submission on crown "R" marks.

I have looked into which factories were using the R Crown Marks (crowned 'R') and why.

These are all the examples I could find of makers using a a capital letter "R" together with a crown device:-

Pottery Marks - R with Crown Above cont/....
by: Peter (admin)

cont/.... from post above

The first R crown mark above is the one which started this thread - that of the Reichenbach Porcelain Factory of Reichenbach, Thuringia, East Germany. Obviously if the mark say GDR it dates it to 1945 - 1990. A very similar mark is shown on the second image - which was shown as belonging to C.& E. Carsten also of Reichenbach (Thuringia). I don't know if these are one and the same factory, so if anybody knows, please comment below. I do know C & E Carsten is definitely associated with the name Schwabe & Co (different periods of one factory owned by Schwabe and then Carstens). The factory was nationalised in 1968 and discontinued previous marks.

The next crowned 'R' image shows that of a Roslau manufacturer called Gebruder Winterling (The Winterling Brothers) of Roslau, Bavaria, Germany. They later used the better know 'W' mark, but did use the 'R' for Roslau for a time.

Next R mark is attributed to Joseph Rieber & Co of Mitterteich, Bavaria, Germany who used it between 1945 and 1971.

Schafer and Vater also had an R mark with a crown above, but it is shown with a star surrounding the letter R beneath the crown. Normally these wares are comical figures and figurines, so you can tell them a mile off.

Next shown is the double R mark (one reversed) below a 5 prong crown. This is the mark of Dallwitz (originally with double 'l'), but later spelled 'Dalwitz' is near Karlsbad, Bohemia (today known as Dalovice in the Czech Republic). The "R" and reverse R with 5 prong crown in this pottery mark was a reference to "Riedel von Riedelstein" who took over the Dallwitz or 'Dalwitz' company in 1872. "Proeschold & Co" took over the company in 1891, using a "P & Co." mark above 'Dallwitz'. Proeschold & Co joined the OEPIAG in 1918 and were renamed to EPIAG in 1920.

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Pottery Marks - R with Crown Above cont/....
by: Peter (admin)

cont/... from post above

The next "R" with a crown above mark is that of famous old and prestigious maker Ludwigsburg of Wurttemberg. This mark looks like it could be either a T R mark or a J R mark, but is in fact, a F R mark which stands for "Fridericus Rex" (Fred rules!). King Frederich 1 and Duke Friedrich II were the royal patrons 1797 to 1816.

It is not just German makers who are known to have used the R crown mark, as Italian makers got in on the act too. The second mark which looks like a J R signature, in fact says F R again and is a mark of Naples. This time the 'F' stands for Ferdinand IV King of Naples (1759-1816) and also later Ferdinand I King of the Two Sicilies (1816-1825).

I found a mark showing an "R" with a five prong crown which also says "Royal Stone China", Milan, Italy. I know only one other maker who used "Royal Stone China" and that is Staffordshire maker Francis Morley & Co, so I can't think the two are connected. There is also a marble called Royal Stone, so I don't know if there is any connection with this pottery mark. Again, anyone with knowledge, please help us put the pieces together.

Finally, the French weren't to be left out - as a company called Manu Faience also has a mark attributed to them showing a crown and an R beneath, but this was within a double lined circle with the crown on top of the circle.

Peter (admin)

Crown R
by: Ken

I have a cake plate like Toni posted It is from the German Democratic Republic, I recieved as a wedding gift in 1983.

Variation of R with Crown Above and Laurel Wreath around R
by: Anonymous

I have a divided dish with a handle that has roses and told trim. The bottom has the 'R' with the Crown above it and the 'R' is inside a Laurel Wreath but underneath the wreath mine says "Fine China" then under that it says made in GDR. It also has a gold sticker under that that says "Germany East" and there are initials in gold at the left side that loo like a RJ. It is so similar to the one that started this thread but wanted to see if it is the same maker. Thanks!

In response to Anonymous with the devided dish
by: Anonymous2 IN NJ

I'm so glad you posted the details on your dish. I have the exact same markings on the bottom of my footed,pierced, floral bowl. It has the gold R with the crown in gold above it, then the green laurel wreaths on either side of the R..also says fine china made in GDR and has a gold sticker that reads,Germany with the word EAST in parenthesis..
I was hoping to narrow down the age of the bowl.

Is anyone able to give a manufacture date given this description?

OH and one more thing..about my bowl
by: Anonymous2in NJ

To anonymous with the divided dish....I have, on the underside of my bowl, besides the Reichenbach mark and gold sticker, in gold, some initials as well...only mine are Le.

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